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freedom man that's what it's all about [Music] you've got to groove on freedom like the good book says [Music] welcome you are listening to what on earth is happening this show will discuss the topics of human consciousness mind control natural law the occult and all issues that affect the freedom of the people of earth what on earth is happening will endeavor to shine light upon the darkness of our world and to offer empowering solutions to the problems we face as humanity approaches its critical moment of choice and now here is your host mark pascio [Music] welcome one and all you're watching what on earth is happening i'm your host mark pascio my website what on earth is happening dot com ladies and gentlemen government is slavery and here on what on earth is happening we are ending slavery one mind at a time thank you for tuning in today today is episode number 256 of what on earth is happening today is sunday may 29 2022. we have a great show lined up for you here today i'm going to be interviewing one great work network content creator bill church on the show live today we are going to be talking about esoteric knowledge the importance of community and the one great work that is coming up on this edition of what on earth is happening ladies and gentlemen i just want to let you know i've been going through some pretty difficult times uh i have not had much time to put toward the wall on earth as happening cause i've been dealing with a lot of personal issues uh this week i had a huge scare with my pet my dog my little chihuahua cheddar had to have surgery and uh it was pretty touch and go there for a while but she did pull through and is still with us and recovering so i'm really really glad to be able to report that but it has uh really um it was scary there for a while and um you know i think a lot of people forget that i deal with all the same human problems and events that go on with everybody else's life nothing insulates me from that or makes me special or different than anyone in that regard and you know i ask people to be patient with me as i go through these uh you know these things in my personal life again i haven't even told the entire story of what else is going on because quite frankly it brings out the ugly side in me and i would rather just focus on doing the great work and uh not really uh festering in that uh and uh so you know i'll keep that personal and private for now but you know just realize that uh what on earth is happening right now is not the uh quintessential thing that is going on for me personally uh just be patient with me in that regard that doesn't mean i'm out of the fight it means that i do have to divert some energy toward other issues in my life uh because i live a very human existence just as everyone else does so i just wanted to reiterate that and i want to go over to uh my slides for some housekeeping and then we'll bring bill church onto the show so here we go again thank you to will keller for the great artwork he's been providing for the what on earth is happening podcasts again today we're going to be talking about esoteric knowledge community and the one great work with my special guest bill church what on earth is happening is operating this season on a streamlined format with myself producing in chair without a setup crew and a uh production crew we're on a six month on six month off schedule probably from here on out i'll be dedicating the first half of the year to watermark this happening shows and then the second half of the year to the how to become the true media seminar so we are broadcasting january through june and then july through december is the how to become the true media seminar the seminar is coming at us with uh great speed so for those who want to enroll and haven't yet i'm gonna say we're probably around over 90 almost 95 capacity for the seminar so folks if you're gonna do it now is the time that's all i have to say enrollment could close early at any time uh it's scheduled to close july 4th i'm almost certainly going to say we probably will close early so do not wait to enroll or you make may get shut out of the seminar this year i just want to put that out there for people so that they don't complain when i close enrollment and when i close enrollment this year i will not be in reopening it for anyone who is late you will have to wait until the uh 2023 how to become the true media seminar if there is one uh based on how things are going in the world uh you know societal collapse and war really truly could be coming at any time this is something we'll probably be talking about today so i really would not wait you know if you want to learn to become a whistleblower if you want to learn to become someone who is a truth teller via modern technology now is your opportunity and this is going to be a 23-week technology seminar hosted via the telegram platform and it will be taking place every monday evening from 8 pm to 11 pm eastern time 3 hours of class instruction every monday july 11th from july 11 2022 through december 12 2022 for a total of 23 class sessions we do open the seminar one hour early to allow people to show up and be on time and then we break up into an informal discussion group after 11 pm and usually i will let that run for at least two hours so minimum until 1 a.m eastern time sometimes i'll let it run an additional three hours it depends on you know what i want to do each week um you know and how i want to handle it so at least two hours of informal discussion after each class session there is limited space available as i said enrollment internet enrollment closes july 4th if you are going to enroll via check or money order which you can find out about uh when you click into the enrollment uh page uh to email me to get the uh mail-in address if you are going to enroll via mail-in via check or money order i will need to receive that enrollment donation be by june i'm sorry by july 1st so if you're enrolling via check or money order you have to get that to me by july 1st if you're enrolling via internet enrollment closes july 4th if i decide to close it early i'm just going to announce that on the website take the enrollment button down take the enrollment page down on gifts and that will be it enrollment will be closed as i said we're about around 90 to 95 capacity right now so fair warning uh for more information on this great seminar coming up which will be a tremendous learning opportunity for everyone who's involved in it visit the the in the seminar website at howtobecomethetruemedia.com once again how to becomethetruemedia.com you can click through to the enrollment page from there please do visit the one great work network at onegreatworknetwork.com fantastic content creation going on there by our great 60 content creators and everyone has a blog where you can even donate to individual content creators that's what this whole project was about highlighting other 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document with preliminary requirements and equipment that is listed in the pdf document and if you do qualify for all of that we will onboard you to our ipfs project again the people who have responded i will be getting to you i know i've been saying that but uh unfortunately life has been intervening and um you know things are going pretty rough um there's other things that even people you know that just occurred today the people who even know me don't know that occurred and um you know it's going to add more of a of a monkey wrench in my plans unfortunately and you know i'm not so sure that a lot of this you know isn't deliberate i know it starts to sound conspiratorial and possibly even paranoid but um especially in the um financial arena of hurting finances that's what this is really ultimately all about they want to hurt people in the wallet to try to take them out of the game financially so that they can't continue their work or they can't even continue the level of work that they were doing and that gets uh gets backed up and gummed up and possibly even even slowed down or stopped it's not going to stop me your their efforts will ultimately go to waste but they can slow people down and right now that's uh seemingly what is going on is uh my efforts have to unfortunately move at a slower pace right now because of things that are going on and that's just how it has to be unfortunately so again i ask people to be patient uh with me and what's going on with me and if you don't understand that uh you know oh well tough uh get as angry about it as you want but uh guess what um you know uh i have to deal with life just like you do and just like everyone else does and so that's how it has to be uh and it's just gonna be like that uh so you know for people that wanna wanna say i'm not doing enough uh you have no idea what the [ __ ] you're talking about and you don't know what's going on in my personal life so how about you just shut the [ __ ] up about it and it's a shame that i have to just be like that and say it like that but sometimes you just have to be a dick about it you know and that's just how it's gonna be like nobody's gonna tell me i'm not doing enough i've done more than most people will in a hundred [ __ ] lifetimes you know and me and bill can talk about that today and about what is really required as far as effort goes and he'll he'll explain to you and tell you what you know what my efforts are here and what i do for because people don't know they think they know and they have zero idea uh but uh you know uh all i have to say that the people say do this do that uh you know hurry uh put this out put that out you'll have to [ __ ] wait and it'll happen at my pace and that's just how it [ __ ] is so get over it so you know i've said it nicely and i've said it like an [ __ ] so take your pick regarding the uh two awesome conferences that i'm going to be taking part in uh this fall the first is the freedom under natural law conference this is uh funnel two coming at us september 10th and 11 2022 the um the uh tag line is going to be united for freedom focused on action so unity focus and action is the theme for this year's freedom under natural law 2 conference september 10th and 11th a slew of phenomenal speakers i'm very glad to be part of this awesome event check it out at the conference website freedomundernaturallaw.com once again freedom under naturallaw.com really looking forward to being a part of funnel two and of course the shattering the illusion conference this is the inaugural shattering the illusion event it's a one day online event about natural law true anarchy consciousness mind control and the occult featuring a whole lineup of awesome speakers many of which are on the one great work network september 24th 2022 a couple weeks after the funnel two conference for more information on this awesome event please check out shatteringtheillusion.info hopefully i will come up with my general themes uh possibly my um title card before what on earth is happening uh 2022 season is over i'm not promising that but hopefully i'll be able to announce what i'll be talking about at these events i haven't fully decided that yet uh i'll be working on that over the next couple of weeks and uh coming up with at least um topics uh if not um you know presentation titles and title cards so hopefully i can announce that before this season is out i can announce in a couple of weeks not next week but i believe two weeks from now i'll be interviewing benny wills from the one great work network uh on what on earth is happening so look for that in a couple of weeks next week i haven't decided what the theme of the show is going to be but uh i will be coming up with something for next week uh probably one of the topics that i discussed in the last few weeks here at what on earth is happening that i want to cover before this season is over we will be taking calls in the third hour of the show with my special guest bill church for this episode so if you want to call in to talk about anything that bill and i bring up on the show today and ask bill any questions or make any comments you can call in via discord we will be taking your calls via the discord platform on the wall on earth is happening discord server you can go into the discord server for for call in at what on earth is happening dot com slash discord or if you are already listening on the what on earth is happening website at what on earth is com slash show on the show page of what on earth is happening you can click on the discord widget underneath the player and that will take you into our discord calling room the arc 2.0 drive is currently available this is an ongoing offer i will continue to offer this drive into the indefinite future it is a repository of information that i've collected from the internet over uh you know close to 20 years uh if not you know more actually a little bit more than 20 years so i call it the amazing repository of knowledge it is a two terabyte drive it's 2.0 because the first incarnation of it was a one terabyte hard drive i added an entire terabyte of information to the original drive and made it a two terabyte repository of information if you want to take me up on this this drive consists of 26 000 audio files 9500 books and 3400 videos from my own personal archive of research gathered over the years and copied on to the two terabyte drive that you send to me there are rigid shipping instructions to protect your property that you're going to be sending to me and i'm going to be sending back to you filled with knowledge and information if you want to take advantage of this fantastic offer of information that will totally wake you up totally inform you totally give you an entirely new world view and this is the problem folks bill and i are going to be talking about this people don't have enough knowledge they believe that they do and yet they don't i see it every single day i go to meetups where people just do not have the information that they require and yet they believe that they have enough information there's let me tell you something folks there are gaps in almost everybody's knowledge that you could park an aircraft carrier in okay and that's the problem is that we're not on the same page when it comes to knowledge we're not on the same page when it comes to the information gathering that must be done that's called the grammar step of the trivium process and most people have not completed step number one of the trivium and if you don't complete step number one if you don't have the grammar don't proceed to step two because your your logic is going to become flawed at that step you're not going to have accurate understanding and then certainly you shouldn't act which is step three of the trivium because your actions are going to be out of alignment with truth they're going to be out of alignment with true wisdom okay your rhetoric's going to be way off and that's what i see this is the overarching problem that i see and again bill will bring this up we'll talk about this a lot on this episode that many people are acting 100 out of alignment because they don't have enough information they haven't gathered the esoteric information that needs to be gathered from an eclectic variety of sources they're not even at that that stage the grammar stage they don't have their grammar under them and they're trying to apply logic or understanding and then move to rhetoric or action when they should not move past step number one which is accumulating information and taking it into yourself then you move to step two and you weed through that information and you weed out logical inconsistency so that you come to an accurate understanding of what's real and then you come to an accurate understanding of what must be done and then you do it we're nowhere near that we're nowhere near that process as as a body of humanity not even as a movement of people who say they want freedom and until we do have that information until we do bring that knowledge into ourselves and take it in and it's in its completeness in its entirety of what's important don't expect to understand what's really going on and certainly don't expect your actions to have any uh true bearing on a solution which is what we ultimately say we want don't expect that not without the knowledge first so the arc is a good step toward closing the gap in that in that knowledge gap that i talked about between people who really do accurately understand what is going on and have that knowledge versus those who don't and unfortunately believe that they have enough information when they don't see that's the problem you know and it's hard to get through to ignorant people it's hard to get through to people that think that they've studied enough and that they've gathered their enough and they understand enough when the people who really have see the glaring holes in their argument they see the glaring hole in their knowledge base you see how ignorant they are and they're talking like they're the wise ones who know what's going on and it's a problem folks it's a problem you know because then they're susceptible to all other kinds of nonsense and mind control and psyops they're susceptible to all of it because they don't know enough about themselves let alone know enough about the enemy's tactics and what's going on in the world truly they don't have that knowledge not in its entirety they have it in drips and drabs they have it in fragmented broken pieces like the saying goes don't take shallow drafts from the period spring you have to drink deeply from it the fount of knowledge only when drinking tiny little bits of it is going to make you drunk with the illusion of knowledge with the illusion of wisdom and only drinking extremely deeply to your total fullness is going to sober you once again and make you really understand what the problem is and what the solution is and that's what the ark can help you to do okay i'm not guaranteeing that it's what you do with it okay i could put the knowledge in your hand and you might not do anything with it but this is at least the grammar in hand that's that's all i can promise you that it is whether you understand what it means or not will be up to you and how voraciously and how in a dedicated way you take in this knowledge into yourself and then maybe you'll come to an accurate understanding but the offer is on the table what on earth is happening dot com slash ark i've been getting so many uh you know requests for the ark offer i i think i sent out at least nine this week again it's amazing what is going on as far as people at least wanting this information so keep it up folks uh i like sending the these out copying them and sending them out makes me feel good because it makes me feel like more information is going out every single day and that's going into more people's minds and 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whole setup via ndi so i have to bring in a usb headset here and i'm going to switch over on my laptop over to bill and i'm going to unmute bill give me a moment and then i'm going to switch over to bill in window here ladies and gentlemen one great work network content creator bill church bill welcome to what on earth is happening hey thank you mark and not only am i on one on earth this happening but i am in your house yes right now here in philadelphia i'm glad that you made it into town i'm glad that we got a chance to hang out and i'm very happy that you were able to come on the show for an interview today so uh bill i'll i'll just give you the floor and let you bring up whatever topics you want to discuss here on what on earth is happening my friend the floor is yours all right man well first off i want to say thank you mark for all that you do nan and i didn't realize um offline we've been discussing some of the issues that you've been dealing with and um it actually brings it illustrates my point more about what we in my opinion what we really need and that is the community and how do we form this community and and that freedom under naturallaw.com that that event that you're going to be attending to i really like that tagline man isn't that great i mean the focus action that's right the the first funnel conference was just a fantastic event i thought it was organized very well i loved all the speakers i even brought a couple of the speakers that i was not uh as familiar with onto the one great work network after hearing them speak at funnel one so i'm really looking forward to taking part in that event i think it was done the right way uh and um i you know uh really am uh glad that they're continuing it and doing another one you and i were talking behind the scenes that you know i may go back on my promise at some point i'm not promising anything just yet but i may go back on my promise never to get involved in conference organization again just to tease a little bit uh i'm not promising anything but uh there are uh there are rumors uh floating about that we may at some point do another event somewhere here local to the philadelphia area and that's all that i will say right now i'm not promising that that's going to happen but we'll talk about it with some of the people who might make it happen and i'll see where it can go well then i think we should start with that unity right and bringing people together and realizing man we're all different but that's the beauty of it is that we all have attributes uh to us as individuals and we all have wants and desires and my wants and desires are just as important to me as your wants and desires are to you sure and even though we we know and love each other we still have different wants and desires of course right and we have different skill sets and ladies and gentlemen mark and i've told you that i've told you this before but even today before we started this show and you guys like seeing in knowledge through experience gnosis right we talk about that all the time and um you know getting out in the world and seeing it but also seeing what mark has to go through to set up these shows uh it's pretty mind-blowing dude like it's very involved and very deep and and the redundancies that you have in place and it's just really really thoroughly thought out and organized and when i first found you man and the information that you presented kind of filled in the gaps just like we were talking about the gaps and when you fill in those gaps man you have a much um a much more solid plane to exist on right if you have all these holes i mean you're you're balanced you're not on easy and solid ground that's right it's a foundation that you're building everything else up on top of if your foundation isn't firm if it isn't solid if it isn't level if it isn't strong all the structures you build on top of that foundation are not going to be strong they're going to be susceptible to collapse and that's what we're trying to explain to people is that you got to get that broad knowledge base underneath you as a foundation if you're going to accurately understand you gotta stand upon firm footing upon the firm foundation of eclectic knowledge gathered weeded through to remove logical fallacies and inconsistencies and then fully understood as your foundational point your structural foundational point then you go out into the world and you build your your work on top of that you know through your action through your behaviors in the world so bill i think that's a profoundly important aspect to to start talking about here today is that foundation of knowledge and that's one of the first things that you wanted to get into so i'll let you continue to flesh that out well and not only do we you know the foundation is absolutely it but then we see um foundational teachings on how we start the process of learning and it's reflected in the tree of life right and uh where we start the root and then we move up and and we can we have we have a choice man we can take the severe path the fat path of severity right path of mildness and uh and or we can take the path of of ease right where it's it's it's the middle and middle way yes yes well the middle way too with the da ot is represents what does it represent mark i would say that that is the straightest path to higher level consciousness because you're not taking the left-hand path or the right-hand path i would look at the right-hand path as more of a a religious path it's more of a standing standing back and observing you could look at it as a more new age type thing and i'm not saying that that's what it's traditionally been viewed as this is my interpretation of it the left hand path is certainly uh much more rigid and you know purely logical more left-brained right but i think that the middle way is the most solid foundation personally because that's combining left and right brain approaches that's saying i don't want belief that's saying i'm not only going to rely on pure logic but i'm going to combine logic and intuition i'm going to combine science and spirituality i'm going to take an integral consciousness related approach to moving forward and to enacting solutions and even when understanding the problems we have to take that integral and consciousness integrated approach uh see this is what i see lacking in the community i i feel that this is more why we're not forming a real true community is because most people are imbalanced in one form or another and then they they're not again filling in those knowledge gaps you have a lot of people that approach it purely from financial political monetary viewpoints and that's it that they don't want to hear anything else other than that when you start bringing up you know you have to do real work upon the self you have to understand that this is about self knowledge right they don't want to hear about that or many other people they just want to fall back on traditional religious viewpoints where oh i have jesus and that's enough uh you know i i have the god of the torah and that's enough you know i have allah and that's enough and you know enough for what that's what my question would be yeah enough for one they believe that's enough to enact a solution in the world based on the problems that they even see when they don't even see the higher level problems they don't even understand the operation of covert religion and the occult they're they're still operating that we put a new uh you know uh the right person in office and things are going to turn around for us don't you know you know this is how many people are still operating yes go ahead well they don't they have the erroneous belief that one man can rule over another they still believe in authority many of them are still minarcus they want more freedom but they don't want real freedom right they still believe that there can be authority and freedom simultaneously there is no such thing there is no such thing as as a person who is being ruled over meaning they're a slave and freedom simultaneously doesn't exist well there's no guarantee of safety in a free society either that's it and that's what they don't they don't want to acknowledge that they they'll trade safety they want police still in many instances and then they want to say those who don't want the police and don't support the police are somehow leftists [ __ ] totally incorrect and totally [ __ ] wrong i'm not going to sit and listen to somebody say something that's completely wrong i'm not a [ __ ] leftist imbecile no more than i am a radical right-wing imbecile because both of those camps are [ __ ] imbeciles and i'm not an imbecile i know what's going on in the real in the very real factual world of nature because i was with the people who ruled the society i was with the people who are running our society and ruling our world i know i didn't need it from book knowledge book knowledge helped me to understand what was really going on but i was behind the scenes with those people helping them to enact and carry out their agendas until i finally woke the [ __ ] up so you know the people who are going to tell me you know who i am or what i experienced sorry nah but we ain't playing that game right i'm not with this one you're not playing that game right you could go play that game with some other [ __ ] imbecile but not with this one okay because i lived it that was my life experience and nobody's going to tell me that my life experience was invalid or didn't happen so i like i said i challenge people who think that come and say that right to my face and we'll have words over it and possibly some some other things over it but you're not going to tell me my experience in my life as a man didn't occur see that's the difference between me and other people who just are seeing this from book knowledge or second-hand experience second-hand knowledge it being related down to them from other people and then they're they're filtering it through that vision through that perception you know then through their own perception and then they they they theorize about it that's why you know somebody this week said to me oh don't you talk about conspiracy theories on your show and i said no don't put me in that camp that's not what i do right i don't i don't conspiracy theorize first of all that's a cia uh it a whole invention the whole term is a cia terminology to put people off to to make people think a conspiracy theorist is someone who makes up [ __ ] and then says just what their nonsense [ __ ] vision that they think is going on is that's not what i do on what on earth is happening and that's not what i've ever done on what on earth is happening since day one i don't theorize about anything here if i do theorize i tell you there's some conjecture here i'm going to speculate and then i'll do that but in general there's no theorization taking place on what on earth is happening this is recounting of life experience this is talking about what is genuinely true in nature and discoverable in esoteric knowledge when you really dig deep enough to get that knowledge and this is a science this is a science of spirituality this is a science of morality this is a science of freedom what on earth is happening has been since day one explaining to the public a science of how freedom actually works in any society anywhere in the 3d universe this is how it operates and it's knowable it's discoverable and it's able to be harmonized with when you know how it works you can harmonize your behavior to it so they'll go right ahead and uh your thoughts on that and if you want to add anything to that well first off that conspiracy tr there is term is a catch-all intellectually lazy label that is you know laid out to people that are i mean it's a derogatory term for critical thinkers right i'm a whistleblower i'm not a theorist i'm a whistleblower let's get that straight for anyone watching okay i lived the experiences that i lived in the occult and with occultists who are really running things and i'm blowing the whistle about what happened and is continuing to happen in that entire covert world okay so i'm not theorizing about any of it i'm blowing a whistle i'm a whistleblower if you want to to put a tagline term on me call me a whistleblower call me an aggregator of knowledge call me a d o cultist but don't call me a conspiracy theorist reserve that term for some other people who want to theorize i'm not theorizing here i'm telling the truth about what occurred and is continuing to occur that i know not from book knowledge but from first hand gnosis from practical knowledgeable experience in real life that 99.9999 of human beings have never experienced and will never experience in their actual life so go ahead bill well not only that they don't experience but i don't think that they're capable of acknowledging the depth of evil that exists in this world because it's natural for us to mirror and so if you're a good person you think everybody's a good person but it works the other way too man if you're a shyster you think everybody's a shyster and if you guys haven't watched that show i am fish head where they talk about the psychopathy and how one out of ten people are on a pretty big uh spectrum of the psychopathy without the ability to feel empathy without the ability to you know just have compassion and to not know about these people gives them a huge huge advantage and the one thing that they don't want is to be called out the one thing that they don't want is the truth they want the darkness they want to operate in ignorance and so that they can take advantage of i mean just the meek and we talked about meek yesterday right the meek and the jordan peterson talks about the meek and and it doesn't mean the weak it well i mean it doesn't mean what people think it means by just by a weak person the meek what it means is that it is a person that has weaponry that is that won't use it even when aggressed upon and the meek shall inherit this earth and what i refer to you mark how much control is being used how much control is currently being used by people we are under duress and our rights are being taken away from us now and if anything there is absolute self-control being utilized for people not to shed blood immediately when we have the right to how much self-control is being utilized okay you know you think about that you know we're under far more duress than the colonists of the american revolution in most colonies were outside of massachusetts you know in massachusetts there was direct violence most other people weren't having direct violence done to them you know we're under more duress than most of the colonists prior to the american revolution were and were exercising more self-restraint than even they did back then you know but i i think people have to consider the notion that it may come to full out open combat warfare open rebellion and i think they have to become comfortable with that notion they have to they have to get out of their minds that that it may not go that way like we want to avert it going that way we don't want that bloodshed but that can't be taken off the table and said that no that can never occur no we will never do that we have to keep that option on the table and fear look at the the potentiality of when the time would be right for beginning something like that and i don't think we're that far away from it quite personally i think people have to become comfortable with that they have to say to themselves you know what this may be the only thing that gives future generations a chance at freedom that's how the colonists in the american revolution looked at it you know and it may be no different today because if you just think about it how far have we come in consciousness as an entire species not very far yeah well how many layers are i mean just with the technological revolution and by the way mark what does the tree of liberty need to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants see it's not just one or the other it's both you know that that's right people are very naive about thinking that anything else is really the price has been the price of freedom the price of for any modicum of freedom in human history has been bloodshed and it's sad but that's true and if anybody doesn't understand that's true you don't understand human history any advance in freedom has come at the price of bloodshed now what we're trying to do now is something that goes beyond that we're trying to do something that goes such a step as an advancement such a step up that bloodshed isn't required that's doing it the right way failure necessitates bloodshed failure in doing it the right way in consciousness necessitates the bloodshed but then you have to just be comfortable with that and you have to say we lost in doing it the right way we failed at that and now it has to be done through bloodshed you can't take the bloodshed option off the table because if you take that off the table then the answer is i'm capitulating to tyranny i'm capitulating to slavery and i'm just saying that's okay and that can just continue unabated and unchallenged and that's never okay there's nothing spiritual in that there's nothing higher consciousness in that you know picking a time that is right to begin a battle is one thing that's strategy but saying i will never do that is saying that you can never ever have the option of physical rebellion and uh that's what i'm saying the quote unquote meek that we're talking about doesn't do that they don't take that option off the table they utilize it as the the uh method of last resort because they don't want to see it come to that and they're trying to avert that through proper moral education this is the real answer and the real solution is proper moral education you know we need to step up and put i'd say i say my number 80 to 85 85 in that basket 15 in the basket of defending physically possibly coming to warfare survivalist needs etc but if you're just putting all your effort into the survivalist camp into the warfare you're playing the lose as i talked about with my guest ivan oyo last week we can't play this battle to lose playing it to win means you're engaging the population the population's ignorance is the real enemy they're the that's the primary enemy the secondary enemy are the globalists are the social engineers are the dark occultists we need to even stop looking at them they're the mind controllers that are holding the bulk of human civilization the bulk of humanity in abject ignorance through what they're putting into their minds and what they're telling them we have to wage information warfare on the ignorance we have to make it an uh an actual operation of warfare of of of tactical information warfare to morally educate the population and yes it can be done it can be done because they're programmable and they're just being programmed by the evil people the good people who claim to be good and claim to know what's going on have to get on the battlefield of getting into those people's minds and programming it with the truth that is the only way they are going to turn their lives around and get engaged in the actual field of combat and get on that battlefield and start waging that warfare on the real enemy which is ignorance which is moral ignorance bill i want you to talk about where you see people's level of moral ignorance because um you were telling me that you at one point did not see it as being as bad as after the whole you know coronavirus nonsense psyop uh helped you to understand that it was i'd really like you to speak to that to our viewing audience because when you told me that it was very very powerful to hear although it's somewhat depressing it's somewhat dark yeah it's sad but but i'd like to get your take on that because when i heard it from you it was very powerful in in addition to being sad and depressing it's powerful because it helps to put into perspective what other people need to see and do it made me realize and gave me real eyes right to see the truth right and and i'm a humanitarian dude i'm a teacher i love people i just do and mark if people don't know this a mark calms me down [Laughter] i think that's great i love it i i said to bill who's calming me down though right right that's good i'm glad to hear that that's why we need a community man because like just like bark with his you know and i know mark's intense but you guys have you ever been to philly you know that is i mean you guys got to see that that philadelphia is shining through through him too like this is how people freaking walking down the street are you [ __ ] kidding me guys like they say they help you but they're gonna tell you what the [ __ ] you did wrong like that's what in philadelphia old philadelphia was like that new new philadelphia unfortunately is a communist stronghold unfortunately but old philly was much better well and that's that's what we're talking about man so i'd always hear you say dude on these on these uh podcasts that we are so far from humanity being awake and i just really didn't believe it because i just am that optimistic dude then the pandemic hit and i saw people love their slavery dude i saw people that got off on telling others what to do because the government told them what to do and it in the in the inability to not just think for yourself but even to ask questions and it broke my heart dude i've my last couple of years of my life have been very very profound and i i believe you dude unfortunately i believe you that we are we're a lot deeper in this abyss um [Music] than i thought man and well the thing is you don't even have to believe me bill you saw it for yourself and that's all i want people to do and as dark as it may be if we see it for ourselves then we're in an empowered position to do something about it you know that's right but we see it for real and that's that realized thing and we need to be truth warriors man and that's what i call you a truth warrior and we need to oppose evil in all of its forms period and and that's where as a community and knowing not just about the the esoteric knowledge that's out there but there's a way to utilize this you guys there's a way to utilize these tarot cards there's a way that you can ask questions and find out more about yourself and then the deeper understanding that you have of yourself like even what the oracle delphi says you know um you who seek to know the know the mysteries of the universe if you do not find in your own house that which you seek did nor will you find it elsewhere in you lies the treasure of treasures know thyself and you shall know the universe and the gods that's right and but i don't i don't think people know that they can utilize this to know about themselves they go elsewhere and that's what i wanted to talk about today too is is not just the importance of of this esoteric knowledge but how to use it to gain the true knowledge about yourself and the more that you know yourself the more powerful that you become the more treasures that you will find and just like in the caballon you know the lips of wisdom are sealed except to the years of understanding and i'm a different person dude like even before when i did the freer mind podcast like today and i'll be starting to to create more work for the one great work networks more content but even after the last couple years i mean i got pretty i got pretty depressed and i still am a little bit man and it's that's why i i'm looking at you and that's why i'm saying like even when we spoke on the discord a couple weeks ago i'm like man we need community this this depression this stress as individuals it's going to make us sick sure it's it's difficult to find in uh major metropolitan areas too some of the most crowded places on earth can be some of the most lonely uh because so few people are really making an effort to truly understand that people feel isolated i see people every day on social media that say they're isolated uh they're depressed they're lonely um that's right you know i you know i could just relate to them because it's like i feel like i have very few people that i could ever count on i feel like i have very few people who are here no i'm not talking about throughout the world i'm talking about locally in my area physically around me you know there's hardly anybody that i can have as a confidant as somebody to do projects with etc it's like i feel like almost alone all of the time you know and people don't want to get involved or stay involved and uh you know i'm in the middle of a very stressful situation with uh you know moving things uh you know that i have to move from a home uh to storage and i barely have any help doing it i have a couple of people and it's uh you know been a very very stressful uh physically trying time where i hurt my back pretty bad and thought that uh you know i might have permanently injured a disc in my back um because of trying to do too much myself with no help and we're getting old dude we're getting older i don't even look at it like that i was really you know i'm pretty i'm still pretty damn strong even for my age but the point is i i was just doing too much i mean try carrying like 50 contractor bags full of debris and trash uh you know because you want to try to get it you know removed in a reasonable time that i'm trying to do something on a time schedule and you just do a repetitive task like that and you can't really carry a contractor bag full of trash like in a truly proper position you kind of have to carry it either in front of you or off to one of your sides it'll injure your back doing it that much and you know that's just what happened because i don't have help you know and it's just uh you know that this goes to show you in a city in a major metropolitan area of over 4 million people i you know still i'm doing things like that because there's nobody else around you know there's a couple of people like i said but it's it's not enough it's like you know like you know could get into other people's issues and problems which i'm not going to do you know but you know you you realize there's just not that many people that want to help that want that care at all you know and it's like then you'll have people continuing to ask you to do more and more and more and more and they don't even know what the [ __ ] going on in your life you know yeah it's like how about you do something the people who ask for more to be done on our part we're doing enough how about you get involved that's the whole [ __ ] point of this whole show the whole point of this whole show isn't to point fingers at me though i'm already doing it the whole point of this whole show is to point the finger at yourself and saying what the [ __ ] have you done you know you don't need to look at mark pasio and ask what he's done you don't need to look at david ike and ask what he's done or alex jones and ask what he's done or anybody else people who are still here or who are gone like jordan maxwell you know or anybody else or william cooper you know you their work speaks for itself you could go into all of their work and see how much proliferous work any people like that put out whether you like them or you don't you know the answer is what [ __ ] work have you put out right this is the whole idea this is what bill is talking about this knowledge gets us to turn the focus inward if we're paying attention to it right the occult information the occult knowledge doesn't make us immediately do this okay it makes us do this and say i have to look at what my contribution to the problem is and stop doing that and then i have to look at what my contribution to the solution is going to be ask myself whether i've done one [ __ ] thing to contribute to the solution and be honest with myself about that and then actually start to doing it and start contributing and keep going with those contributions you know that's what real occult knowledge does that's how it really transforms you bill your take on that well and we have to keep the bloodshed on the table man because this is something do you think the other side has bloodshed on the table they're already committing bloodshed they've already murdered millions of people you know their default position bro and to not even think that that's on the table when that's their default position who was the globalist that was just interviewed by the world economic forum i can't recall his name ceo of five is the ceo of pfizer just said that their entire dream since beginning the wef was to eliminate 50 of the population and now today that dream is becoming a reality how else could you possibly interpret it yeah roaring applause dude yep because those people are just like i'm gonna be the half that's left and i'm gonna be prosperous and it's gonna be a bigger world for us and we're just going to eliminate the useless eaters this is what they think of people this is what they think of everybody who's been silent you know this is what they think of you yeah and they feel morally you know they feel morally superior and not only that but i mean when we look at at um you know when when this when this stuff is happening it's like i don't know it's just it's when do we draw the line you know and um how much duress are people already under how much threat of taking things away from you that they rightfully don't have a right to take how much threat of removing your rights are we already under how many how many things are we already under that we are at the at the point of a gun forced to turn over our wages the fruit of our labor paying taxes on property which is an oxymoron if something is already property you can't tax somebody and tell them you could take it away people still don't understand this property tax they have people that's where we should like just property tax if we could [ __ ] abolish that dude and really own your product you don't own [ __ ] bill and that's it that's what activist meetups are people who say they want freedom there are people who saying taxation and property taxes are perfectly viable perfectly justifiable perfectly moral they don't even understand property or they and they don't understand taxation as violence and slavery i don't understand how we're in an information age of information flow the way we are and people can still exist with that level of ignorance and with knowledge gaps like that that they don't understand that that's violence that they don't understand that's the state of duress the continually implied threat of violence upon your being and your soul knows it and your soul is trying to wake you up to it and your soul doesn't want to sit and watch netflix and anytime that you're disconnected and don't have a purpose and you you don't don't know what to do guess what you're looking for distractions that's right and you're looking to feel that you know but there is a way that we can get a foundation understanding or understood the foundational knowledge the eclectic knowledge base that we need to advance our souls man and i think that's why we're here of course okay first and foremost you're not mark you know that you're not mark that's called a name that's right that was handed to you by your parents that's not who you are you're not your body that's right you know i'm like like my body will be there no i will be there right right your body houses a spark of the divine absolutely however you want to call it whatever brings that life into this plane of existence you ladies and gentlemen every single ear that's listening to this are you are eternal don't ever forget that you are eternal your earthly body is going to return back to this and there's it to this earth and not only that but this is all temporary it's ephemeral here today gone tomorrow you know that's right that's the first part of esoteric knowledge is understanding who we really are that we're not these things see it's apathetic everything bill was saying is apathetic we are not this we are not that we are not any of those things we're that which remains and that once you understand that fear of death goes and fear of death is the beginning of slavery right and the letting go of the fear of death is the beginning of getting out of slavery that's the beginning of true freedom we have to let that fear go and realize that that form of death that we think of is an illusion well i look at martyrdom sure you know and that's what i'm looking like and i don't mean it as a religious umbrella mind control aspect but i'm looking at these people that have traded their life for the greater good or given themselves over and knowing hey look and not only that man as i as i age and as i i watched my my mom go to heaven i watched my dad go to heaven i was right there with them as they transitioned and i experienced that with with my own eyes and and i called in you know we also have to remember that there is a metaphysical world out there and i believe that there are spirit guides i believe there are angels i believe that there are uh councils on the other side here that we can call force and i did that with my parents when they passed away and anytime that your parents go i think that is a very stark reminder of your own mortality sure and and the limited time the ethereal time that you have on this plane and the time is what we call spiritual currency right the green stuff the stuff that we can get all day long um and there's the currency that pays the bills and buys a house or whatever in the physical right but we also have to remember that that currency there's also a currency that pays our mind uh that pays our heart that pays our body right right you got boxing gloves downstairs i see you got some exercise equipment and stuff and that's the exercise that we do but we also have to do the inner size of working on ourselves and and coming together in unity and then focusing on that work and helping others gain more knowledge about themselves and then and then once we have that then we can take action and stand in truth and they can absolutely have my earthly body i can't think of anything else that lay my body on the line for that would be more admirable in my mind than freedom and truth and love when you think about how we're here how many people made that ultimate sacrifice you know i don't recall whether i brought it up last week but i was talking about it with some people at a meet-up it's like people don't even understand uh basic u.s history who live here uh and uh in this very vicinity um just uh to the south of philadelphia uh fort mifflin um and we're in south failure yeah for fort mifflin uh at the mouth of the delaware river uh you know in the revolutionary war uh philadelphia was being bombarded by the british in their ships coming in to take philadelphia they did eventually take philadelphia the continental army and some of the founding fathers had to make a strategic retreat to york pennsylvania it's about halfway between philadelphia and harrisburg and um while that retreat was taking place in order to give them enough time to you know uh retreat from the british navy and uh infantry that was landing on the shores of philadelphia and the surrounding area uh the the uh contingency of uh uh you know revolutionaries at fort mifflin had to stay there and fight till the last man that was their orders to stay there and not retreat and allow those who were retreating to york to make it and think about that they knew they had no chance against the bombardment of cannonballs and other fi you know uh you know fire uh bombardment of the british navy and they knew every one of them till the last man was gonna die and guess what none of them were treated and they all stayed in fault till the last man died now that sacrifice we can't even conceptualize that today we can't even conceive of that let alone have a bunch of people who would be willing to actually do that physically with their bodies i mean imagine that stopping people from visiting their loved ones in hospitals we have we have people order followers who are stopping parents from getting their children out of a hostage situation yeah oh [ __ ] them [ __ ] them dude people that don't know this you know your kid is being shot up in a school in a psyop and it's a psyop dude all these all these gun grab psyops and you go to get to save your kid and this [ __ ] cop tases you right and like you said us a psyop we i want to revisit that about the parents and and what the cops did what these low-life scumbag [ __ ] pigs did who you know i'd like i could say what i think should happen to them but you know it's like well worse than any torment imaginable should happen to these people while they're alive forget about what should happen after they die but you just look at um you know um i was talking about the uh the the psyop nature of what just happened in this texas school shooting whether you think that it's staged or not irrelevant they are going to use what occurred and they want the maximization of death that's why those low life trash [ __ ] scumbag pigs were told to stand down and not do what should be their duty which is to defend life they're they're not defenders of life they're not the good guys you're [ __ ] low life scumbag [ __ ] trash you [ __ ] low life followers right dirty rotten nazi and communist trash order followers you're cut from the same [ __ ] cloth low lives and come and see me personally if you have a problem with my words come right here to philadelphia come and see me [ __ ] personally okay and i'll deal with you myself because you're trash to need to just be [ __ ] dealt with and you could imagine whatever the [ __ ] you want you can imagine whatever you want your low lives your scum [ __ ] low lies slavery and you're the ones keeping slavery in place man and the only thing that you could possibly imagine that that was done to do is maximize the casualty count so that they can have a bigger outcry from the population do something that's the dialect yeah not to see something that they shouldn't see right on the back end right however what is is of the op itself that's right correct the other question is how does a how does a young teenager get resources like he has working part-time at a fast food restaurant right working part-time at a fast-food restaurant has the a truck the way he has can can afford what he can afford has firearms and ammunition etc there's no way somebody's affording that on that type of a salary not happening well and just look at the catalyst that makes this happen is money of course just and then just the payment of these pigs to say stop the families from going in there and rescuing their children stand down so that the casualty count can go up yeah exactly do violence to them you you [ __ ] pigs are [ __ ] low life immoral scumbag nazi [ __ ] trash and communist [ __ ] trash your garbage as beings your garbage has your your black-hearted [ __ ] hearts and souls and there's no other way to say it to you and nobody else will [ __ ] say it that way you're trashed it should be [ __ ] exterminated right and some people take what mark says is harsh or whatever but it's it's the truth and not only that but it's it's the way that he presents you know and that's a beautiful thing about it is that we all have a voice we all have a heartbeat we all have a unique pattern right and we all have a way of presenting stuff that's going to correspond but also you know what might some people might be turned off by mark's approach but you guys got to remember too is that he knows the depth of what he's dealing with and there's a book out there called the bright side of your dark side and it's a it's a great book man it talks about without intensity and like especially with people that are very creative they're putting their life energy and they're training their life to do this just like mark when i look around in this room mark's content that he has made thousands and thousands of hours of content here um you know what this has been mark's work and he has focused his life and um anything that that goes wrong like and i blow glass and so i have to do it like kind of a glass artist and watching this glass artist work on something that has taken him a month to to to do and at the very end he does a couple final moves and the whole thing shatters the passion that he had to create this and watching it just get destroyed in front of his face is gonna bring about um what people might conceive as a negative reaction but what they don't realize is that this is a perfectly normal and acceptable reaction to somebody who is so passionate about what they do and he doesn't give up he then picks up picks it up and does it all over again start from the [ __ ] beginning dude and so when you hear mark and i love mark and i know him he's my friend and that's what every time i'm in philly i come to see him because i have to because i i the one of the first things i saw of you was a cult mockery of the police and military and i'm like holy [ __ ] dude like why do they wear a shield over their [ __ ] heart why is that why why are they shielding their heart right why are they wearing these symbols why don't they know about that and then guess what i did dude i walk up to a cop and be like what is that symbol you're wearing and you know what the cop said i don't [ __ ] know get away man what are you doing yeah they don't even care or want to know that's right they have no respect for themselves as a human being as a soul how could they possibly respect anyone else that's why the police aren't owed any respect see everybody wants to go oh you have no respect you're goddamn right i have no [ __ ] respect for the police i have no respect i'll have respect for someone when they respect themselves when they know who they are when they understand someone else's sovereignty and when they respect that sovereignty then you'll have my infinite respect as another sovereign being you don't want to understand yourself you don't want to do enough work to have self-respect upon yourself you want to say i'm just here to follow the orders of another [ __ ] person for a paycheck you're a low-life piece of [ __ ] scumbag [ __ ] trash and i don't have respect for [ __ ] so people like that you're soulless heartless beings and they you shouldn't be respected you don't deserve any respect you did nothing to earn respect as a human being you need to earn respect as a human being by knowing who you are knowing what your rights are knowing what right from wrong are and then extending those to other beings if you're not doing that you're just vermin taking up space and that's what the police are and i don't give a [ __ ] who they are and if they know that they quit the cult that they're in they quit the cult that they're in all right tell tell them about that what you heard people on the flight on the way over here to philadelphia talking about because it's profound it shows you how much people even understand that they're actively in a cult and don't care and that is the that is the lowest form of disrespect for the self that i could possibly imagine bill it's powerful story it's a powerful anecdote because when you told it to me i'm i'm going oh my god it's it's hard to believe and yet yes i can understand this is the apa this is the power of the cult that these people are in to hold their mind in this kind of thrall tell them what you yourself witnessed on the way over here yeah flying on the airplane the two people behind me were talking and one guy or the lady was like oh armed forces and he's like yeah nate are marines and she's like navy and then they start talking so they were both in the armed forces one in the marines one in the navy okay continue and then she says to him you know the navy is really a cult i think that davey's really occult and he says to her the whole military is a cult imagine that and then they started laughing then they started laughing and they're they're cracking jokes about it laughing about it saying to each other that they know that they are in cults that they are in one massive cult and they don't care they don't care this is who we are up against folks this is who you have to understand this is who the dark occultist this is who the dark religionists this is who the dark social engineers made they made these people they made their minds and this is who you are up against not only dude i don't care but they will kill you if order too that's it that's it without a second thought just like it's nothing like it's nothing right so not only do they don't care but they will kill you and if you don't believe that you're a stupid [ __ ] if you don't know that that's the case you're a stupid dumb naive punk [ __ ] [ __ ] and i'll say it to your face a child a little [ __ ] fool [ __ ] child if you don't know that and i'll say it because no one else will say it just like that so i'll [ __ ] say it and you are meek and you will inherit the earth and you will where i don't want this earth man i'm i'm here to learn i'm here to progress my soul through the experiences and i'm also here to raise my own consciousness and by others seeing that it is possible hopefully follow suit that's it exactly that's it but who wants this [ __ ] place this place is a [ __ ] trash heap at this point i mean it could be a wonderful beautiful place that can be a a community for the evolving of consciousness it can become that but we're nowhere near having it be anything like that you know i mean that would probably take centuries to just get it back to something like that if we even if we began now we're not even beginning we're people are still clinging on to the dead [ __ ] corpse that never served who they were believing that these institutions have any [ __ ] loyalty to them the police don't have any [ __ ] loyalty to you they have loyalty their occult and their paycheck and if you don't believe it you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] at this point how anybody can believe it that's it it's a cult it's an occult cult it's a covert cult that's operating outside the purview of most human beings sight you know and and people want to still make excuses for these [ __ ] low-life trash their low-life scumbag trash until they quit when you quit you're no longer a low-life scumbag piece of [ __ ] trash then you become a human being again who's working to try to correct the the [ __ ] past wrongs that they did until you [ __ ] quit you're a low-life scumbag trash [ __ ] cult member and other people gotta call you the [ __ ] on it and stop [ __ ] making excuses for your [ __ ] cult behavior well there is a glimmer of hope here man they can't find any cops in seattle and i remember dude when somebody asked if when you'll know we're making progress and you said one of the signs that we will know we're making progress is when they where they have a hard time feeling these roles of these cops right when police and military will no longer join up to those cults then we're starting to turn the tide now there's a positive side to that which obviously they're not getting people in the cult of the police but the negative side could be that they're simply trying to take down their sa and instill their new ss that has to be watched for we have to understand the the sophistication of their methods that doesn't mean to say let's take these people out of the equation so we can instill new controllers it means nobody should be the controller the idea here is you can't institute people who claim to be the governance of other people because nobody on this earth has the right to control anybody else the idea i've one of the founding fathers i i believe it was um uh james madison said if men were angels government would not be necessary and i corrected madison while madison was uh you know very wise in other ways and uh you know philosophical in many other ways and had many things right he had that wrong and i call people out on it i'm not just an apologist for you know a group of people who i say oh i i have respect for them so they're always right no they're not always right they're wrong a good bit of the time quite frankly and the point is when they're wrong you gotta call them on it and i said let me offer a correction to that no human beings are angels and therefore none are fit to rule anyone else it's very simple you know it's very very very very uncomplicated you don't say we we while we're all not angels we'll institute this level of government by man and we'll all rule over everybody else i mean think about the logical fallacy and the logical incoherency in that opinion you just said nobody's an angel and then in the next breath you're saying we have the right to rule i mean it's an asinine position it's an it's an ass position quite frankly right it hasn't been thought through logically you haven't filtered out the logical inconsistencies in the argument the trivium's not in place right you put the trivium in place that's it walking contradiction dude right you put the trivium in place and then you understand nobody's fit to rule anybody else because we're all flawed human beings and none of us are perfect we're not angels so therefore you don't put a [ __ ] government in place that is comprised by flawed [ __ ] human beings capable of error you don't do that you say nobody [ __ ] rules anybody else there can't be rulership because everyone is flawed why would i want to rule anybody else when i know i'm just this flawed believe me folks i know a whole lot but that doesn't make me perfect because i'm far from it and i'll be the first to admit it that's why i would never want rulership over another bing i i don't i don't deserve that i don't want it you know nobody should put me up on a pedestal like that or anyone else for that matter this is just simple [ __ ] common sense or it should be the problem is we're real short on common sense these days well just to boil it down to people are so evil that they need people that are evil to watch over people that are evil like it just doesn't compute like it just i think it's a perfectly reasonable uh uh solution to put in place bill don't you yeah yeah i think it's gonna work out just fine circular circular logic man and guess what dude i just got a message from our buddy android jones and so i just wanted to shout out to him i love android jones and i i've thought of all the people that could possibly do real justice to a tarot deck if i designed one and i'm gonna say that i i think maybe android jones might be the uh human being for the job if he would take it so maybe uh maybe one day we sit down with android and talk over the proposition with him and i have another person that may be willing to actually contribute financially to the project uh whatever would be necessary it would be so that's it man i think i should start working on this i i've talked about it long enough like i think i should start getting that ball running because when it comes to esoteric knowledge the tarot was one of the greatest tools that we have at our disposal to teach us about ourselves you know it's not there as an external source of power it's there as a mirror the tarot is a mirror kabbalah and the tree of life is a mirror it just helps us to understand who we truly are from a soul perspective so i know you wanted to talk a lot about that bill anything you want to bring up in that field regarding any um esoteric tradition is uh fine to to explore and flesh out more uh especially when it comes to uh the possibility of you know uh maybe uh getting together with android and we talk about coming up with a very unique tarot deck that has never been put out before uh talking about what the cards truly really mean on each card and uh you know helping that be a reflective mechanism and a way of uh you know understanding the cards better for people and i would probably call this the natural law tarot deck is what i would i would probably uh give it the moniker of uh and uh you know i think uh having considered many other artists and looked at a lot of their art i don't think there's anybody better qualified than android jones to to to to take up that project if he has the time and inclination to want to do it right right so right right but he is a he is a fan of the great work he he does the work himself he has esoteric meanings in his his work as well and and totally if you if you should he should come up on one of these shows as well um but just look around at some of the people that are in this network ladies and gentlemen and we have some freaking mind-blowing amazing people that are part of this network and part of this community and we all have something to teach each other we all have something to learn each from each other and just like you know when when i first met mark at the free your mind conference it was very valuable man when we can get together and there's a lot of energetic information that's exchanged by a physical touch yes right and i think that we need to touch each other i think we need to hug each other i think we need to come into community hold space and also i like that unity and then we're going to focus focus on where you're at in the spectrum of your knowledge base focus on the gap right and in business we have that bridging the gap exercise of like look we're here we need to be here how do we bridge that gap right and so that's my goal as community is like let's start bridging the gaps let's start focusing on a knowledge base that we can achieve in a brain trust and that we are it doesn't mean we have to agree on every single solitary thing it means we have to have common ground when i don't want to agree on everything of course i don't want to it would be a boring world right that's right yeah we have to gain common ground on first principles on morality there has to be common ground you have to have a a genuine understanding of rights and first principles you know we don't even have that in our community though that's the gap bill's talking about we have to bridge that gap that's what builds real community because real community is connected via the truth again a real relationship the people involved have to be connected in truth otherwise it's not a genuine connection you know and this is what bill is referring to we need true genuine community that comes together in first principles and understands those first principles first then we could discuss how we're going to move forward to implement solutions and we don't have to agree in every aspect of implementation of those solutions you know but we do need to agree on first principles first principles have to come first that's the foundation then we can build the structure right at the bottom level of a building right it's all shared the foundation is shared all the weight is bared upon that foundation the load is bared by that foundation then you see spires being built that they go off in different directions they don't all share the common common top ground right that's that's how it works but you got to have the same foundational viewpoint when it comes to first principles so go ahead bill continue on that we have to be vulnerable we have to be in a place that we can say i was wrong that's right that's right that's one of the most powerful words that we can say as individuals and we're going to flush out the stuff that we're wrong about and we do it in a space that we can be safe and be vulnerable with each other and know that we all have the common outcome of eventually focusing our our mind and and our and our efforts on knowing the truth and so that we may speak it and then we take action together and so that unity focus action from that um that uh free what is it the freedom with natural law is that that would freedom under natural law yes right i love that tagline man it's unity focus action but until we have that unity and focus i think that it goes in that order just like the grammar logic the trivia rhetoric it's the same as everything else right that's right and you can't you can't go rhetoric grammar what the hell right is that you know it's like it's it's you're you're so you're unifying under the knowledge and then the focus is how to proceed you have a clear understanding it's the trivium it's exactly the trigger then you act you know that's your rhetoric stage wisdom unity grammar unity bringing it all together right focus focus logic i'm going to focus until we understand that right we have two two contradictions here one of them needs to go by that's right right then we have the truth and then once we have the truth then we understand it and then ready now it's exactly how that's the exact order it needs to be in that's the trivium bill you know what it is the the the bad dialectic right the the the polarizing dialectic of left versus right they separated people into two camps each of which has at least half of the equation wrong okay yeah you have the leftist with authoritarian approach completely incorrect with a a nanny state uh with uh you know don't give responsibility all of that the whole woke dynamic right and but they got some things right they want to take care of the environment they want to have general community they want to have they don't they don't really like the police although many of them want to have the police transformed to be on their side but many of them don't trust or like the police or want them the uh the the right-hand side has many things correct gun ownership individual rights you know they believe the government has totally overreached in people's lives so they're more menarchists and they have that right but then many of them are authoritarian in different ways where they want localized control where they want a lot of police on the street you know uh where they're they're not compassionate enough you know where they're they're very uh selfish and you know focused too much on money you know it's both sides have a lot wrong both sides have some and if not a lot right right but that means neither side is the direction you should go because you're going into a minimum of a 50 50 dynamic when it comes to getting things correct and if you don't have things correct when it comes to the trivium when you don't have things correct when it comes to first principles when you don't have things correct when it comes to morality regardless of what political persuasion you are coming from your action is going to be imbalanced it's going to be imbalanced toward the immoral you're not going to be uh be acting according to your actual rights under natural law this is the problem with getting any part of it wrong that's why it is said that the path the middle way is narrow it's a narrow pathway right when you when you're going out to the left and right you have all kinds of error that you're you could be walking all on and it's you you have all that ground to step on that is all unfortunately incorrect right you're on an a non-firm foundation but when you're on the path of truth it's very narrow it's narrow straights a little bit wandering this way you're off the path a little bit wandering that way you're off the path you got to step on that razor's edge you know and if you if you stay on that razor's edge that middle pathway straight to the truth then you're going to be making progress and then the left's going to be calling you a fascist right-wing lunatic and the right's going to be calling you a communist left-wing lunatic and both of them are wrong both of them are wrong yeah then the conspiracy theory yeah uh-huh as if i'm theorizing right they're just in the dialectic they don't understand a person who's walking that middle ground and i don't mean a centrist either i'm talking about somebody who is really in alignment with truth and isn't imbalanced toward either the left brain or the right brain and this is what these people don't understand they still are only seeing it from their level of consciousness and their perspective that's why they can't understand somebody at a higher level of consciousness they have to do the work to pull themselves up from the bootstraps to that higher level of consciousness through knowledge is how it has to proceed the gaps in these be people's knowledge is what makes them stay in a dialectic it's what makes them stay polarized and separated and never the twain shall meet and why they're so totally adamant against each other and can't see any part of the other uh the others arguments even when they have certain things correct right they're in corridors that's right they're in corridors because they're in a political affiliation that's right and so as long as they're in the corridor you're still trapped dude they're identified they've been given a a set of identities by the social engineers who they never met who they don't understand that whole class of people that is trying to divide and conquer them and they've accepted those identities firmly into themselves and they've calcified in their mental emotional and spiritual makeup and they can't see their way out of that the way out of that is first principles know the self getting get the information that you lack that you still don't have and you don't know enough you think you know enough and you don't know enough you still have large gaps in your informational makeup and you need to gather that knowledge eclectically and put it together and that's what this whole podcast since its inception is trying to help people to do understand your worldview is [ __ ] up your your whole knowledge base is completely incomplete it is so incomplete that anybody looking at it sees that it looks like swiss cheese it looks like craters on the [ __ ] moon there's so many [ __ ] holes in it okay and and there's no nice way of saying that to people you know this is why where we could talk about communication and building community where you have to somehow bridge in a communications way explaining to people you you are deficient and it's not somebody immediately beating down on you like i'm not trying to beat down on you because you're ignorant because you're deficient in knowledge trying to wake you up we're trying to get you up wake you up and build you up build you up to give you help to give you and point you to that information and say you didn't look at this and that's a problem you need to look at this or you're not going to understand the totality of this dynamic and this is what i i struggle to do because i honestly i'm gonna just be honest with people i look at people with [ __ ] contempt i look at them and i'm like you're just a lazy [ __ ] [ __ ] who doesn't want to do the [ __ ] work you're just a lazy egotistical [ __ ] prick that just wants to be [ __ ] right guess what i wanted to be right too when i was in satanism and people came along and said hey you stupid [ __ ] little [ __ ] boy you don't know what's going [ __ ] on you may think you do from your [ __ ] perspective from your [ __ ] level of consciousness but you don't know what the [ __ ] you're involved in you're in a [ __ ] cult you dumb [ __ ] you need to get the [ __ ] out of it you need to get your head screwed on [ __ ] straight and you need to learn to [ __ ] what learn what the [ __ ] is going on in this world because you're involved with the people that are flushing it down the [ __ ] toilet bowl and i had to [ __ ] i beat myself up over that that i let myself in my ignorance and in my [ __ ] emotional [ __ ] trauma get sucked into a [ __ ] cult like that but guess what at least i had enough self-respect to pull myself the [ __ ] out of it i didn't keep doubling and tripling and quadrupling down in my [ __ ] ignorance i at least pulled back looked at what i was involved in and said hey you know what they're right the [ __ ] problem is me i don't know what i think i [ __ ] know and there is a time when you can step back and you can say whoa i do know now you know it's not it's not like you ever stop learning but there's a point where you say hey i know what's going on now to the extent that i can talk about these dynamics and their completeness and help to enact a solution through that knowledge yes it's not like you you are forever ignorant that this is another thing in the whole new age and religious communities that needs to [ __ ] go no there is a place where you've arrived where you've reached the [ __ ] plateau of knowledge that you need to be at to solve this problem hey will there not be another step and you got to go up here yeah at some point yes there will but guess what we can't keep [ __ ] second guessing ourselves forever and saying i only know that i know nothing that's some [ __ ] new age nonsense i know quite a [ __ ] bit other people know quite a [ __ ] bit and other people are totally [ __ ] ignorant and way down here and they gotta get up to here where we're at if we're going to make any [ __ ] progress and if we're going to create a community that makes any progress and understand that that passion is is translated by love that we have and and not just i mean mark is in contempt of others but but also i know that i struggle with that i i know that it's a problem and i know i need to work on it but i'm just letting people know i'm being honest i don't lie to myself about myself i just say what's true and i struggle with that that's a problem for me that's why we need more people who can extend even more compassion to these people to help them [ __ ] learn because at some point i just like want to smash their [ __ ] head in and say you're just a [ __ ] dunce you don't want to [ __ ] learn you want everybody [ __ ] enslaved i i don't have an unlimited amount of patience and i acknowledge that right i'm telling you i'm not perfect i'm telling you i have a limit to my [ __ ] patience i don't have that endless amount of time to talk to [ __ ] [ __ ] imbeciles right other people have to pick up the [ __ ] gap where it exists and help do that work one person can't do that and i certainly can't be the one person to do it i i'm just telling people out in the open honestly to be honest about myself this is where my failings are at i don't have an unlimited amount of patience for people i don't have an unlimited amount of compassion for people i have a little bit of patience i have a little bit of compassion but it ends somewhere right i try to help them if they don't want [ __ ] help that ends somewhere we need more people constantly barraging them see that's how it's got to get done just the way the [ __ ] media barrages us we have to constantly barrage people with truth to the point where the true voice is infinitely louder than the voice of the lie we're nowhere near that stage yet not even close but we're tiptoeing to it man well i [ __ ] i don't even know if that's stupid i think it is i think that's fair to say that we're moving toward it very slowly well indeed remember when you said i'm not interested in describing the prison right right i want to know how the [ __ ] we break out of this right and that's it man it's like these corridors of perception are basically prisons in my opinion and and it confines the way that people view this world and and um and that's why we need community that's why each one of us has different ways of presenting this information as long as it is is it's it is true right um like the different cadence of our voice the different tonation and there's there's there's people that are gonna appeal to you you know i don't have a problem with mark i know him and i know that he is intense but i also know the body of work that he has done and the banging trying to freaking get some type of [ __ ] crowbar into the collective consciousness of this society on earth and and that that's what agape love is you know that's right this is what the higher form of love actually is which i know that you wanted to really discuss the kinds of love and the differences we need to get down to like there is no like i i believe that most people think that eros which is lust which is passion which is great romantic love between man and woman or or you know uh partners in life life partners etc nothing wrong with that it's one of the greatest things in life i mean there's there's absolutely no there should be no shame in that that should be expressed that should be celebrated right absolutely of course not only that that's why we come into a body right and so that we can experience this so we can eat we can experience these different even orgasmic pleasures but there's a reason why in the vedic chakra system why that that root chakra is the center of want and desire and i think that that's what happens is that transmutation where there are different levels of love right the seven types of love so you were talking about the agape which is the earthly love the communal love the what would you describe i talk about it as the love of truth the love of freedom the love of what is right agape is cosmic love it is the love for simply what is right what is just what is true and the love of freedom for all you know um it's respect for others as sovereign beings ultimately there's an in-between universe there's an in-between love that is filos theolos is brotherly love sisterly love that is platonic love love for for everyone in the physical right means brother in greek and filos means love the philos form of love which is br brotherly love or platonic love the love of brother okay and that's the in between that's in between eros and agape agape is the highest form of cosmic love the love of what is true the love of what is right the love of what is just and the love of freedom uh the the desire for all beings to be free and free from suffering that's what i would describe agape love as why don't that be [ __ ] wonderful man oh that's that's the consciousness we have to get to that's the consciousness we have to get to and as long as people are shielding parents away from doing something about their children being murdered we're not going to reach the agape form of love i mean imagine how mind control the being has to be imagine what a golem you know imagine how unloved they had to be in their life picture how unloved from a perspective of even eros and filos forms of love they had to be to turn out like that how much of a failure our society is as much of a failure in producing cops like that as human beings as they are in producing a mass shooter that would go and shoot up school children again regardless of what you think the event is all about we are still producing people with that level of [ __ ] complete lack of understanding of who they are and complete total imbalance in their behavior and then we have people protecting them and hoping standing down for a paycheck so they do maximum damage how [ __ ] up in the head and in the heart in the soul do people have to be to behave like that that's why we have to understand that just uh caring about your child doesn't involve forcing a [ __ ] meal down their throat and sending them off the [ __ ] school where they're going to be further brainwashed it means really caring about their emotional makeup it means really paying attention to them it means really caring about their spiritual development it means loving them from an agape form higher form of love and consciousness and how many parents are even taking that approach how many parents give a [ __ ] about what's right how many parents even know what a right is how many parents care about whether their children are going to live in a dystopian police state they don't even care about their children you know they don't care about their children from a filo's perspective you know let alone an agape perspective and this is what we have to conquer we have to realize we need to employ love in our society from a much higher perspective and it's great to have eros love it's great to have theolos love wonderful to have romantic a romantic partner wonderful to have family and friends but we have to have them in our life to the extent that we do or even don't and then transcend to the agape form of love and consciousness which is we have to seek justice we have to seek truth we have to seek true freedom not this imaginary form of freedom that we have so bill i think it's very powerful that you wanted to bring that up on the show because i think it's still very much misunderstood i tried to clear it up during my breakdown of uh the leima when i broke down the thalamic tradition but uh i think it's very important that people understand those different forms of of love and delineate between them and seek the agape form of love in their lives well and know that these military structures they give the familial love that they've always lacked that's right right and that's that's the magnet as a process are joining yeah they give that as they say they're that's my family it's my brothers it's my you know and then they'll use it what's the difference between the story how do you how do you uh store jay dorgay isn't that a familiar a type of familiar love as well the i'm not familiar i would have to look it up uh sorry folks i accidentally hit natural form of affectionate experience between family members so that would be a protective kinship based love between parents and their children children from the parents store gay can also be described as a sense of patriotism interesting uh allegiance to the same team so an associative type of storge would be that love of if i associate maybe or um family members so it's like a different level that that um that philos right right and then we have the mania more of the protective the protective fatherly aspect of it perhaps yes instead of the rudimentary um yeah of of of just the relationship i guess right the family then we have the mania mania which is a type of love that i think that is uh indicative of an imbalance right right um and um and i think i love this thing in the 3d so much that i'm obsessed with it you know and there's plenty of people with that look at look at this whole sports cult dynamic you know of grown men acting like children painting their face you know and wearing you wearing a costume and going to a sporting event and their whole self worth being hinged upon whether their tribal team wins or loses i mean talk about mind control talk about social engineering you know when they first proposed when social engineers first proposed building sports stadiums i don't know if anybody knows about this there were arguments among literal like social engineering like planning groups saying you'll never get adults to go watch children's games as a competition and fill stadiums with them this will be a colossal waste of money and resources that we could put toward other ways of controlling people and they said oh yeah you want to bet watch watch us do it and you know they actually turned you know children's games into these spectacle sports and got people to just totally invest their entire identity in them i mean i can't even imagine look folks i like a distraction from time to time nobody's going to tell you devoid yourself of every single little pleasure you'd be a fool to do so because you'd become imbalanced you know i like little distractions i watch a movie here and there i i watch pro wrestling i told you that's my my uh stupid little uh guilty pleasure right from my youth okay but guess what my work is done for the day when i do those things that i'm i'm not doing them while i need to be working right while i'm doing the great work my energy and my whole attention is focused directly upon it i'm not [ __ ] around watching movies or playing video games you know then when i am finished what i need to accomplish for the day and i have a sense of accomplishment and i say okay i've bitten off that chunk for the day another one tomorrow and then i'm resting at night to recoup and rejuvenate myself and my body and my mind i'll let my mind wander a little bit sometimes i won't sometimes i'll go into more research sometimes i'll go watch more documentaries or listen to more lectures or podcasts but sometimes i'll just say hey i'm gonna watch an old episode of star trek the next generation tonight you know or i'm gonna put a movie on i'll throw you know a harry potter film on or something i'll watch an allegorical film or something to just uh wind down and relax nobody should be without something like that because you will go insane if you only 100 dedicate your focus to one thing you got to have some levels of enjoyment and down time right and and something that is uh light and that you don't constantly put your mind in one one perpetual circle we're not talking about that but we're we're talking about you know just um focusing most of your time on the work and then unwinding it a little bit and and having pleasures in your life for that so again this this goes back to what are you gonna spend most of your time doing right first of all that is the basis of community right community is like what is the essence of all of the people that form this dynamic you could call it a group we're calling it simply a community are they really spending their time to enact the solution that everybody really wants that's the great work that's moral education if i look at any group that i'm involved in i'm the i'm one of the only one of if not the only moral educator present that explains rights that it explains what freedom really is that explains what transgressions against rights are that explains the difference between right and wrong and natural law i die i i could ask every single person at the entire group or meet up are you doing any aspect of this work no i do this type of activism no i'm involved in survivalism no i'm a gun rights guy no i i go to the the shooting range and practice my shooting craft no i'm i'm out growing because i'm expecting the food apocalypse and i just all we want to focus on farming you know it's like all of our eggs are in the basket to lose and i'm not saying don't practice those crafts practice those crafts but if your craft isn't in the great work if your craft isn't in moral education you are playing the game to lose and this is what i see almost everyone doing i i i consider i'm one of the only per persons in any one of the only people in any of the dynamic groups that i'm involved with all over and i'm not going to mention any names and single anybody else out single anyone out or try to embarrass anybody i'm just saying every single person is playing some aspect of the game to lose instead of truly morally educate if we're not truly morally educating we're playing to lose and i'm going to keep bringing up this dynamic yes go ahead bill what's in direct proportion to freedom morality wouldn't it make sense that that that would be a cornerstone of what we talk about got to be the only solution then if you don't have a moral population you can't have freedom that's a law it's not a suggestion it's not a theory it's a law in nature and if you do not have a moral population you cannot have freedom period period so is gardening the answer no gardening is something we should have as a skill agreed are are just guns the answer no but we should have them for our protection is sound money the answer no but we should have it for interacting while we still believe in money right means of exchange i'm not going to argue any of those points but if you want real freedom real freedom isn't hinged on just guns real freedom isn't hinged on gardening real freedom isn't hinged on just growing your own food real freedom isn't hinge on survivalist skills or sound money real freedom is hinged on morality and if you're not involved in the game to teach humanity morality you're playing to lose and when i ask that question do you see how quickly and easily mark answered it should be like it should be like knowing the answer to one plus one you know that's right well and i want to step back to where you were talking about the um you know taking time for yourself and uh falatea i believe falatea i don't know how to pronounce that but that is another type of love and that is yourself right damn right yep and and care for yourself and love yourself and that you know and be easy with yourself and even when we have all this stress and and self-talk negative self-talk whenever i work with people and i work with dogs and people and i'm talking to them and a lot of times with the relationship that they go different ways and sometimes they go a little bit off to the ditch and the people are trying to write the relationship are trying to get along with this animal and the animal is a wonderful thing because it it's a great reminder of the law of nature the natural law and um you know they're not going to read our yield signs or like follow the man-made law basically they're they're walking in nature and they're in the present moment they live their lives in the present moment and they forgive and they're they're and one of the things i was telling mark before we started it was like go look at the experiments that they've done where they've given people oxytocin which is known as the love chemical and the number one thing that they saw um the side effect from even the smallest doses of this oxytocin was the subjects one to forgive and not feel um you know the down uh the stressful effects of holding on to grudges or whatever and that's where i think i think there's something valuable in there you know and i think that with this love and the understanding that the foundation has to have love baked in man of course the foundation and the love the love of of life and the love of i mean just look at the great work man truth love freedom it's one of the three words that we use that's that's the meat of the sandwich you know what i mean it's like that's got to be it's got to be the ultimate foundation you know it's got like love under will when i was talking about thalemic principles it's the law it's the foundation of everything agape love absolutely you know the other forms of love are all important and have to be enacted in the world but people have to understand agape above all else you know that's where that's where the transformative form of love is at and has to be employed if we're going to really transform the world into a a just place that is uh you know going to uh allow us to truly be free and truly express ourselves and and become who we were meant to be what i was saying too is uh when i'm watching these people handle their dogs or or whatever they're learning the relationship with this animal and they're like i'm so stupid or i'm an idiot and i'm just like whoa yeah so i want to stop that right here i want to i want to ask you a question and the other thing that we need to do is we need to know the right questions right we need to ask the right questions as a community and that by itself i think that if we ask the right questions just like i asked mark what is freedom in direct proportion to right and the the right answer is if we know the question to ask we'll come they will come organically you know if we do ask those right questions that's like the socratic method of really getting down to the heart of what's important you know by asking yourself questions it's self-examination without a doubt yeah that's part of shadow work big part of it yeah to go back to this dynamic with animals you know we talked about you know you were talking about like people like immediately beat themselves up just because they're lacking knowledge about how to interact with them and uh that's not the right thing to do like it's the same thing when i teach technology i see people doing that all i'm stupid when it comes to technology no you're not stupid when it comes to technology you're simply ill-informed currently you haven't gotten the right information you haven't asked the right questions and then anson answered them it's it's a matter of simply lacking information it's not that you're stupid it's that you are currently ignorant of the information that you need to know to operate that thing properly and this is the same thing when it comes to the dynamic of human freedom on the earth we just are ignorant about how it works as a species once we become knowledgeable about how it works we don't need to beat ourselves over up over it we just need to take that knowledge and employ it and then organically we will be doing the right things and the right results will show up in our lives it's not that hard it's not that difficult to even figure out that it works that way you know but without self-respect we just beat ourselves up and tell ourselves we're stupid and there's nothing we can do about it now totally wrong approach to it it's not a matter of that you know and we surprise ourselves with just a little bit of trying how much we will achieve and how much will expand our knowledge base uh effort is all that's required you know if you wanna if anybody wants to beat themselves over anything be yourselves over up on giving up on yourselves thinking that you can't do it and waiting so long and just staying in that state of stagnation and don't beat yourself up too bad over that just say i just have to activate and just try this you don't even need you just need to [ __ ] try to do it you don't need to succeed failure will be a teacher and you just keep pushing and keep going a little bit each day you don't have to do it all at once either i am not expecting i tell people in how to become the true media seminar do you think i expect you to become the level of technological expert that i am after one year of taking one course i would never expect that i expected the beginning beginning to gain basic competence on in your craft in in creating new media basic competence will go from there right you build on basic competence but if you don't have that foundation at the bottom level of basic competence what do you think you're going to build you're not going to build anything if the foundation isn't laid of basic competence you ain't building the 33rd floor or the 93rd floor okay you're building an unsound structure because you're not trying you try you get the basics you build your foundation then you slowly build on top of there and then you start doing more and more impressive things no builder in the history of humanity ever tried to build the top floor before the foundation the foundation is where you have to learn and get the very basics at okay that's why it's called foundational you know it's not expert level it's foundational that's what we're teaching and how to become the true media that's why anybody that wants to beat themselves up and say oh i'm dumb i just don't know technology no you just haven't been exposed to the right way of doing it and you haven't just tried at a foundational level and and i'm telling you i will approach it from that level from the beginner and then eventually intermediate stage later in the course but we will build those foundational skill sets and some people i tell you what let me just if i may elaborate this i know i'm cutting into calls we should go to the phones but people some people tell me i'm so glad you went as slow as you did mark because i understood all of it everything that you said and then some people email me and say you were going so slow i fell asleep in class this week and it's like oh well so be it well then guess what you know if that's what you know guess what don't still think you know everything that i talk about because i will surprise people who do know those basics and they'll say to me you taught me things i still didn't know even though i knew the basics of what you were saying you showed me tricks you showed me short shortcuts you showed me pointers that i never even would have considered and it totally enhanced my workflow it totally enhanced my understanding and now i'm more efficient at what i do so even people who consider themselves experts don't think that you know everything don't think that you've heard it all or seen it all and guess what students teach me things while i'm in the class i haven't seen it all i don't know it all people will go oh check that menu out look at this command you could do in that menu and i'll be like well damn i never knew that was there and that's going to really make my workflow more efficient and productive and it's like you know i don't expect that i know everything i will look things up you know i will make mistakes and then learn from the mistake that's how you learn anything folks you don't beat yourself up over it so bill that's a powerful um aspect to really help people to understand never beat yourself up because you just don't understand something you know no well and if you allowed somebody else to speak to you the way that you just spoke to yourself oh and that person was a friend would you still be friends with that person right and a lot of times people say absolutely not and i'm like you mean you wouldn't allow somebody to say you're a [ __ ] idiot what are you so stupid like no you won't [ __ ] take that so why the hell would you take it from yourself sure and so i want to encourage every single person that's listening to here stop the negative self-talk and this is going to be a point that we do need to be vulnerable and that's the beauty of having a community that we can be vulnerable with because guess what you know at malcuth we're at the foundation we're at the start we're at the root of the tree and we have a choice of where we want to go that's right stay there and enter cosmic judgment or build our way up to the very top of that ladder uh enter the state of the ladder to god and enter the state of self-mastery and then we'll have cosmic justice very simple choice it's it's not hard to figure out it's a choice in the moment that's living in the present moment and having true present moment awareness and entering the agape form of love consciousness if we do that we'll enter that state of cosmic justice if we don't evolve in that progression we're going to stay in cosmic judgment so bill before we go to the calls let's uh just tell people where they can find your work and i'll give them any websites that you want to give out and then we'll go to some callers well i'm on the great word network that's what i'm sending everybody so i even though i do have the freermindpodcast.com but just go to the great work network all my content's on there and it's been a while since i have created any content for the truth community but i'm i'm even today i mean i'm starting again i had a year-long process that my wife had cancer and now we're she's healed up and we're doing good and i'm back to work man such good news thank thank god i'm so glad to hear that because that was you were there was a very scary situation yes yes yeah so and i'm thankful for you that i can call and talk and and uh mark is my friend man like a week i call him i talk to him text him and anytime i come out here i mean but you also have to realize that mark is i'm just profoundly grateful for you dude because not only did you teach me and fill in the gaps of knowledge that i needed but you also inspired me to start my own project and you've done some awesome stuff bill uh such great contributions to the work if people have not checked out the free or mind podcast it's absolutely critical listening uh bill's uh done some great work with it interviewed some great guests um you know i have them all downloaded uh so you know uh check that out on the one great work network you can click into the creators section and then click on bill church's avatar and uh you'll you'll be taken to his blog on the one great work network where all that material is there and more will be coming so bill thank you so much yes you bet and just so you know everybody that's out there that hasn't produced any content i encourage you do it today and know that when i listen to the first episodes of my free or mine podcast i'm embarrassed as [ __ ] you know and so if you're not embarrassed by the first content that you put out then you've waited way too long and you gotta say so what that's what it is that's what it was put it out there yeah i listened to my first podcast and i'm like well i was a little bit shaky i'm still not embarrassed by it but uh we make progress we make progress and we keep going and it's like was i the person then that i am today no of course i've learned and grown much since then and i've learned a lot technologically about how to do things how not to do things uh and you know we always have room for improvement we we're never perfect uh we can strive for that but no in 3d you're never going to reach perfection don't let that inhibit you don't let perfection become the enemy of doing something that is good and that is powerful and transformative uh you know don't wait for perfection just start it start it and improve upon it as you go that's all any of us can do all right so great advice there yes there's no finish line here that's right either that's right and we're just striving and we're just we're we're walking this i mean we're we're living life and and i think this is the goal of life is to to not only create but to seek know and speak and improve as we go absolutely look when we even if we solve the conundrum of human freedom and end human slavery you think those are the only challenges out there you think that's all that we need to do as human beings there'll be a billion other challenges over the horizon and then we'll meet them in the next level and then next level after that right next level after that and if we survive this one as a species let's qualify it because there's no guaranteed victory either it's a it's a choice in the moment whether we'll go on to those next levels or not and we have to utilize our will to proceed and to continue to to grow and to evolve so uh ladies and gentlemen build church check them out on the one great work network let's uh get ready to go over to your calls right now so give me a moment to uh set my screen up for the callers and then we want to hear from you any questions that you have from bill church or comments on what we just discussed so give me one moment and we'll bring bill right back in with our callers let me just get the screen set up here for that all right what i'm gonna do is just get rid of my uh make this full screen let's see how it works if i simply make it full screen and keep it there i really would rather not have people uh people's names showing if it is i'll move it over but let's just give it a shot like this i think that works fine we could see the edge of the discord window but you're still full screen i'm going to leave it like that and uh let's start going to some callers let's hear from angela angela you are live on what on earth is happening with my special guest bill church welcome hello mark can you hear me all right yes we can you're coming through loud and clear fantastic what a powerful thing you all were both talking about i have yet to um check out bill's content on the one great work a network and um but i've been listening to several and chris jensen is one of my faves right now oh he's great he's he's a very down to earth i really like him anyway i just wanted to say that um one of the things that bill spoke about that is really difficult for people because of the media and the competition they put out there for the most trivial of things in life is that negative self-reinforcement um and it's almost as if we're beaten with it uh you know since public school you know even in kindergarten you know kindergarten is probably fun because you're learning things but then when you get to first grade it's all wrote you know it's just like memorize this and memorize this it doesn't matter if it's real or not or or if it's true or not and then all of a sudden you have you know a graduating class of paychecks right nobody's a leader nobody um does any digging unless you know they have contacts and things like that and a lot of people are starting um i'm getting ready to take your class and i'm really looking forward to it awesome and yeah and um i'm coming in late in life you know i'm 50 years old and um the last few years um i have put myself out there i don't have i have content out there i even created an assembly and we're still together since i've been doing my deeper dive and you've come on uh into my radar i have done nothing but push you and uh your content toward uh these people and going into the more esoteric stuff such as the kabulian um and and and understanding that the knowledge of all of these so-called occulted philosophies are just that it depends on how what you do with the information and how you use it that's right and and it's wonderful because all of my assembly are doing their deep dives and i really think that uh we're gonna be able to form a community here in my state um that can you know be an annex of your one great work network and i'm i'm just so looking forward to it and i wanted to say thank you so much for having me and i i yield absolutely i'm really glad that you're going to be part of the how to become the true media seminar and that you're uh you've been looking into all of this esoteric knowledge and the one great work network in general definitely check out bill's work i think you're going to find it uh tremendous uh and um bill your your take on everything that angela just put forward there angela thank you so much for the call applying the knowledge that we gain and what we were talking about earlier versus the lower s self versus the higher s self and what we um utilize this knowledge for and it and it's basically to set that free humanity but we can use this knowledge to gain an advantage over others as well right and so um you know that's it is that that just knowing that it's it's the knowledge base that is for the greater good right and and that even though we're we're working on ourselves it's the macro that's the reason why we're doing the micro that's right does that make sense makes sense yeah i mean and and how would you like how how does it make sense to you um to me it's like pixels you know it's like when we got one little pixel versus this millions of millions of vehicles on the screen right every every aspect of a totality if it is improved increases the improvement of the hole and it can't be any other way if you think about it okay if you if you increase the aspect of a molecule of water in a container the container's whole quality is increased it's the same thing when it comes to people where we're cells in a body if if some of the cells become healthier the whole body becomes healthier to to that extent to that ratio right that therefore we have to encourage making a lot more of the cells of the body healthier so that the totality of the body becomes healthy um that dynamic is something that a lot of people can't understand that's where you get the what can i do mindset right and uh i think the caller angela here hit on something that when it's never too late to become involved to reverse the process right it doesn't matter what your age is uh we have people who are 70 years or older in the how to become the true media seminar and they could contribute and do the great work at any given time that they choose to activate you know it's it's a choice in the moment it's a choice to self-improve it's a choice to get involved and get on the battlefield every single atom every cell contributes to that dynamic in the whole it it improves the ratio it is uh it is a overarching uh dynamic of looking at whole wider systems it it it's understanding how systems level dynamics work and this is what the social engineers know that's how they know how to keep things in control how to keep the lid on things they know that if it's pushed past this little bit it will be a quantum reaction it will be a chain reaction circumstance right where everybody's starting to think different and then behave different and they understand those systems level dynamics that's why they employ people like actuaries we were just talking about companies that employ that was just actuarial studies you know so go ahead bill to explain that because i've talked about it in the past but you you know a lot about it too well i mean it's just the the actuaries i mean it's a way to get in front of a problem it basically that's it it's like where is this gonna go and it's basically a way to predict the future but it's a very good way to predict the future they take an infinite amount of variables like tens of thousands of variables input them into super computers right metadata and and then they have algorithms programmed into these massive supercomputers that can model what will actually occur in a future point in a scenario this is called actuarial okay an actuarial study actuaries are paid often in ridiculous amounts of money often millions of dollars per year to do their jobs because uh they are some of the most um valuable people to companies who are trying to predict very complex dynamic systems and where they will go at future points that's how they can uh you know hedge bets and make appropriate arrangements and set certain advertising into effect and many many other dynamics that that corporations have to deal with on a yearly basis and uh this is what i talk about is that the the global engineers the so the globalist social engineers run actuarial studies on human dynamics you know so they look at oh what will happen if this many people get involved in this type of a thing in this type of a project or this many people wake up that's why they have to keep putting the pressure on making new events scare people uh having new false flags etc they know that without doing that if they just let things run as it is without interjecting some new variable they're going to lose they've actually this out and they actuary out how to keep people in check how to keep people down how to keep them in low vibratory fear-based consciousness you know so um regarding what what angela was saying um i think we have to understand every contribution to the solution improves the situation every person staying stagnant helps the dynamic continue to go the the route that it is on and this is what people many people don't understand i hear the defeatist mindset of oh but what can we do you can do a lot all you got to do when you're asking yourself what can we do is what has someone like myself done pract not not entirely myself practically myself but with some help right you can do a tremendous amount you you have to just have the confidence in yourself that you can do more it is very possible to do more you know and it's just you gotta you gotta try go ahead bill what's that saying of um don't discount oh jeez the the the the few that changed the world here let me see if i can google it it's a quote about that that don't discount the few um who are crazy enough to think they can change the world they're the only people who ever have something to i'm paraphrasing but yeah that's that's exactly what i'm saying point well that's the way yeah that's the way this is the way it works you know and not only that but remember when we're looking at the bifurcation point of like like uh and that like the three percent rule like when we're looking at a school of fish when we're looking at a flock of birds changing directions even though that's a a conglomerate of thousands and thousands of individuals they're all moving as one being right but only three percent of those birds are controlling that movement right are deciding which direction they really want to go in exactly and that's that's it's not any different with human beings and not only that but you claim it right claim your power claim your power and know that just like angela was saying that's not angela none of us here are our names we are infinite love intelligence energy having an experience on this plane of existence i just happen to be having an experience in a mail form and a water suit right a male formed water suit named bill church [Laughter] and if you want to put anything after the eye in your self identity as an individual as an eye consciousness put the word will after it you know because then you'll really see what can happen you know i will church that's my name you know right in this case it's literally true that's right and you got to look at that stuff too man and uh i mean the beautiful thing about life is that life is beautiful man and that we and that's why i'm i'm getting you i'm kidnapping you mark one of these day dude we will we're going to go out the wilderness dude we're going out i think we're going to go i want to make i want to make time for that for sure we're we're going to make it happen man and it's going to we've been planning this for years and but dude i just can't wait um i mean even in phoenix when we were down there you know and driving across the country and stuff man you just are you just become a different person and especially when we get out of especially this city that's really really full with um human it's a human world right full of right angles and stuff uh human contraptions and noises and and energy and um and false etcetera yeah false beliefs false i mean dude i was driving down 95 the other day and there's a big billboard with texas the shooting of texas you know um our hearts are with texas or something like that and i'm like man this is the programming this is all present and it reminds me of they live if you guys have not seen the movie they live that would one of my favorite movies of all time with one of my favorite pro wrestlers of all time roddy piper who did a great job as an actor in that movie yeah rowdy rowdy rowdy roddy piper right with the pi with the one of the best villains ever yep jake the snake then he they did let's take another call before we start wrestling all right let's hear from jennifer jennifer you're live on what on earth is happening with my special guest bill church what do you have for us hey jennifer hi we can hear you can you hear me yes we can yes we can so my question is if there's a group of conscious people in this world that are supposedly conscious don't they can't they come to an agreement on what's right and what's not right according to natural law like is it still a debate well i think people's rape and murder i think the conscious people in the world have done that the only conundrum the problem with it is that they're scattered to the four winds of the earth they're not concentrated in any one area and then it's our job to help spread that awareness to other people in our area and keep spreading it until we all come together as a human community to understand those things right now so few people are at that level of consciousness unfortunately because common sense is so low and mind control programming is so high and has been that way for thousands of years that uh the if you looked at the conscious people on a map of the world it would be tiny pinpoints of light light similar to the stars in the night sky scattered all over the earth and there would not be any big clusters of them anywhere uh as far as i'm concerned i if i look at the dynamic from my understanding that is how i i see it um bill your your take on that first part of jennifer's uh call and then we'll we'll let you uh ask something else as well if you want to well i'm i mean some and it's and it can be boiled down to simplistic don't steal right we we we we profess that and basically it's like once you're once you're unified in a community and especially of higher consciousness people that understand natural law pretty obvious when somebody doesn't belong because they say stuff that you know like the taxes property taxes are legitimate or something you know that can be easily flushed out right and then that don't steal you're talking about rape or murder i think and it's very obvious when someone doesn't understand first principles because they will advocate for something that directly goes against first principles for example as a computer expert if someone uh you know who i know has very low knowledge of computing says oh just do this and i know that that will end up with a catastrophe um you immediately know they don't know a lot about computing it's like you know you don't you don't need to flesh it out a lot you you would look at their what they're saying to do and realizing that's not going to work you know that's going to make things far worse uh you know what their skill set and their their their level of awareness about how that thing works is it's the same thing when it comes to natural law which is unfortunately what creates somewhat more tension and division between people because the people who are very knowledgeable are not trying to tell them you're wrong to make them feel bad or to put them down but it's the same dynamic like if i told somebody look you don't know what you're doing with that computer when i worked at i worked in um uh a uh an ivy league university's school of medicine division troubleshooting scientific computers in science laboratories okay so think about the level of technical proficiency you're going to have to show up in a city no be quiet for a second yelling at everybody you always are yelling but i got some [ __ ] to say too the women are tired and you know what it's not going to change because i grew up in an occult i grew up in a cult church i grew up with a cult city and nothing is [ __ ] changing because people are okay hold on hold on hold on hold on what has changed already has anything changed it so to a certain extent to a certain extent more people are aware now than were than were aware 10 years ago is it enough is it enough obviously there's many many many people who are cowards out there and guess what some people want believe that the right answer is to try to stay hidden and not do anything and not drawing any draw any attention to themselves i see that dynamic over and over and over again okay you're correct about that i'm not going to debate that but let me make my point about when you have a knowledge gap because that was that was the first thing we really started talking about on the show and you're sort of reiterating it with your first question here so i want to flesh that out a little bit more i was a technician in a science lab in science laboratories at an ivy league school of medicine you would imagine you would have to know a lot about computers to do a job like that and to troubleshoot computers in that type of a field now what i what i was saying that me and bill were alluding to when you know that people don't know what they're doing or when you know that there's a knowledge gap and you know that they don't know first principles when people left positions there and they had to refill the positions with new people they would bring in interviewees and they would say you're going to monitor their work they're going to attempt to do certain jobs and you as already a person who's doing this you're going to try to train them guide them through it see what what they're capable of see if they're competent and then if they are we'll hire them and we'll give them a position and they'll be in charge of this division and that division when i would sit down with certain people they would be right like fresh out of university okay and they would have studied computer science or something like that and then you sit them down in the field and you say okay the job today is we're troubleshooting this computer we're going to figure out why this isn't working right many times when i saw what their approach was going to be and i knew not only is it not going to work but it's going to add another problem you're going to create a new problem on top of the existing problem because you don't know how to solve the problem and you're flowing at the wind you're grasping at straws you're trying to pull something out of the air or out of up your ass to try to fix something because you don't want to just sit back and say i have no [ __ ] idea how to fix this i don't have the i don't have the knowledge but you're trying to impress somebody so you want to do something right when the real answer is i this is out of my league and i don't know i don't know how to fix this right the best the best substitute for knowledge free i don't agree i think that through we need to go back in history from the beginning where men have been supposed to be the protectors and they have failed us they didn't protect us in any war i'm not disagree i'm not in disagreement i i call most men total cowards i agree with you right most men are cowards i talk about this all the time we should have already been in a physical combat revolution revolutionary war 2.0 already okay the problem is where does that cowardice come from it comes from what they've been taught it comes from what they've learned it comes from what they've taken into their mind not just men have done that women have done that to children men have done that to children educators false educators so-called educators have done that to children priests have done that to children and and other clergy and different religions new age movement people have done that to people it's a complex set of variables over who has instilled cowardice like that into people but what i'm going back to is i had to literally say to someone i'm sorry get up out of your chair and don't touch the keyboard and mouse because it when we let people who don't have the expertise to do it now that doesn't mean don't train them right but the instructions i'm giving is see what they already know right so in seeing what they already know am i going to sit back and go continue continue continue continue and they [ __ ] up a whole system or worse they [ __ ] up something on the network right accidentally and then that [ __ ] up multiple systems right or that [ __ ] up data that multiple people on the network need which we can't allow to happen right it's the people who know have to assert their knowledge which is what i'm doing on the show when you say i'm yelling i am telling people what i definitively know not what i believe not what i have some wild-eyed optimistic belief right but guess what but guess what there's a difference here's the difference let me explain the difference two things one is first what bill said is secondary it's my show but first and foremost i'm right and that's what matters definitively above all else be right and then be as loud and as ass holish and as as totally [ __ ] hard ass as you want to be but make sure you're correct first and i am correct i have the correct dynamic which is why i should be listened to and i'm not such a humble [ __ ] new age bumpkin like some other people that i'm not going to tell you that i know that i have the solution in hand and that i should be listened to that doesn't make me anybody else's ruler that means the dynamic that i am discussing i definitively understand because i've run it through the trivium model to the point of odd infinitum [ __ ] puking to death over knowing it's definitively correct through the proper truth discovery methods that's the reason i'm a hard ass about it because i'm around other dumb [ __ ] who don't know want to implement solutions when they haven't run it through the [ __ ] trivium and it's going to make matters worse just like the dumb [ __ ] straight out of university who thinks he [ __ ] knows something trying to [ __ ] make an improvement to his system and is going to [ __ ] it up that i have to tell get the [ __ ] up out of the chair you don't know what you're [ __ ] doing that's the difference you see so i understand what you are saying and i am in agreement with you to an extent yes most people are going to do nothing because they're cowards that's why it is left up to the people who are knowledgeable and and most importantly have the answer correct if you don't have it correct don't act on it that's why the person coming in sitting down at the seat trying to get the job only gives a [ __ ] about the money doesn't really care about getting it right hasn't gotten it right is going to still make an attempt to do something to fix something quote unquote when he's [ __ ] it up further instead of saying i don't have the answer right i don't know what to do someone who does know should educate me see that's getting out of ego and saying i don't want to make matters worse i want to get the core answer correct first before i act that's getting your grammar under you and your logic under you before you employ the rhetoric stage of the trivium my instructions when i was in this position were let him try his rhetoric see what he can do don't let him do a lot of damage but assess what he can do he or she there were many women who tried to take these positions as well and while i was instructed while i was their quote instructor or a assessor of their capabilities not one person made it through the gauntlet and not because i think i know better than everybody else i legitimately gave them a chance to prove that they know what they're doing every single one was incompetent the people who did get hired got hired from other departments and other divisions and but what it shows me is so few people actually have true competence because they they played the game of fake it and the idea fake it until you make it fake it till somebody gives you the position where you're making money fake it till you're in the administrative position where you don't really need that much technical knowledge you could just boss other people around the answer is we have to become so deep in our level of knowledge that we really do become experts at it and the problem that me and bill are discussing here is most people don't have that esoteric level of knowledge nor do they have the foresight to understand the real dynamics in employing the answer and employing the solution and if we put the rhetoric before the grammar if we act before that knowledge is fully in hand we're not actually solving the problem we're adding to it so i hope that's clearly understood to the caller and other people listening and i understand your frustration jennifer but we also have to put out there that there is some progress being made i believe me it's too [ __ ] slow for me i'm in full agreement with you there my friend i'm in full agreement with you it's way too slow and on this trajectory we're not going to get the job done quite frankly that's the answer is having a fully defeatist attitude is not going to get the job done we need an attitude of realism not wide-eyed optimism of some new ager thinking oh it's all love and light and we don't need to take any action we just need to observe because many of those [ __ ] idiots actually still believe that nonsense okay and it's not total doom and it's forever destined to be like this and we can't do anything neither one of those perspe perspectives enacts the correct solution they're both defeatist attitudes one is a defeatist attitude by not acting one is a defeatist attitude by thinking no level of action is sufficient and can actually turn things around it's untrue it can be turned around if enough people inspire people to actually get the knowledge and then do the right thing with it that's what has to be done not necessarily totally take a defeatist attitude because then everybody's gonna say why the [ __ ] should i get out of bed in the morning why should i learn a [ __ ] thing why should i read one book why should i watch one documentary why should i listen to one podcast let alone a [ __ ] thousand that i need to to really understand what's truly going on inside me and in the world around me bill your take on that well everything you're saying except for just knowing that after we have come into agreement and solved some problems other problems pop up and this is an organic type of evolving process but it's also how we engage with each other as well right and i think that we can i mean there is a way that we can communicate and there's um there's a way that we can communicate where we can really really cover progress and we don't have to fight and and the understanding too of like look there's different dynamics out there as well like and i remember i mentioned you mentioned men not protecting women and i just want you to let you know like my wife is a concealed carry everywhere you know she's my protection in the age of firearms men don't need to protect women women can protect themselves with a gun that can clap an aggressor right out of life and they could be an 80 year old woman they could be you know a younger woman that is very slight in their build you know you could be you could be uh 90 pounds and uh totally petite and uh you know uh have hardly any power in your body and still clap out a 300 pound guy you know firearms are the great equalizer in that respect so you know nobody should be looking in any gender to anyone else for their protection but what protects me is standing in righteousness number one is my ultimate protection and number two my 45 on my hip with a hollow with a bunch of hollow point rounds in it is my secondary protection and then after that that that handgun will get me to my rifles and whatever else you know but that that's real protection it doesn't take it doesn't take a man it takes just a finger that's right to a male or a female that's right or a child or an adult that's right absolutely so you know we have to avoid defeatist attitudes in this whole endeavor right am i telling you what seems dark it seems like we don't have much of a chance no i'm telling you what is real the real scenario right you can look at my assessment as actuarial because i am acting like a super computer that has taken so much unbelievable voluminous amounts of data into it and run it through the trivium that it is like an actuarial okay and you could you could say oh he's full of himself whatever you could say whatever the [ __ ] you want doesn't matter to me i still know that i have the correct understanding because i've used the real truth discovery process to get there it hasn't been a distorted belief system to get there right when you use that it becomes like a computer and the and the computer is not biased it's just gonna give you what the real answer is whether you like it or not so i don't look at myself as an optimist or a pessimist i don't look at myself as some new age [ __ ] head in the [ __ ] clouds you know uh you know woo person nor do i look at myself as a total doomer black pillar right i look at myself as a realist that is trying to communicate this is the dynamic this is where we're at this is what's going to be required to reverse the dynamic and make it better and if we stay on this trajectory we're definitely [ __ ] and those things are simply true they're not coming from a positive perspective they're not coming from a doomer perspective and that's what more people have to understand and you're never gonna understand that unless you have enough knowledge the knowledge is the gap in everything when i say and yeah i yell about it i get up in people's face about it you don't know what i know and that's the problem you don't know what i know most people don't know what i know and that's the problem and yeah i'm gonna be loud and i'm gonna be sometimes a [ __ ] [ __ ] about it you don't like it it's very simple no one's required to listen to what on earth is happening or mark pass ago you shut it the [ __ ] off and you go watch something else you go listen to somebody else i'm not interested in whether somebody likes what i do or not i'm not interested in whether somebody believes that i'm correct or not i know the truth of the matter and i know the dynamic and i know what is required to solve it and change it for the better if you don't believe that i don't give a [ __ ] go do whatever else the [ __ ] you're gonna do and you're not required nobody's forcing anybody to watch me okay so and i'm very open about that and i'm just you know i'm who i am about it and it isn't going to change if nobody likes it [ __ ] off okay very simple that's it and this is who he is you know not only that but he's passionate and and know that belief systems are very important because any new information based like it's not going to be taken in as the information is first going to be held against your beliefs that's before it's that's right that's why belief systems have to be destroyed i don't have any belief systems i only look at what is in the actual realm of nature this is the solution observe that which is that's it that is where truth comes from the truth is always there we're just missing it we're not perceiving it correctly we're getting the answers wrong that's why i'll keep going over it endlessly i'd infinitum the most important thing in all of this is to be correct if you're not correct you're [ __ ] up if you're not correct and you try to act you're adding to the harm be correct first i've always wanted i've always had this question like somebody was like are you just a right fighter and i'm like [ __ ] yeah i am why would you want to walk around holding on to true [ __ ] that's like incorrect right it's like yeah i am a right fighter i want to know how this world exists i want to know the the truth and go back to episode number one truth is what is it's what exists that's right to believe that truth doesn't exist is solipsism if we if we base our actions upon what isn't true then we get bad results if we align our behavior to what is true we get good results it's not that complicated actually to figure out it's our hard [ __ ] noggins are in the way of allowing the understanding to come into ourselves when you do that you'll develop a realist mind perspective you won't be a doomer and you won't be a [ __ ] wide-eyed optimist new ager both of the those groups of people are never going to help enact the solution they're drawing people away from the solution which is the middle ground you could look at the doomer as the left-hand path and you can look at the new age [ __ ] imbeciles the right-hand path they're not on the middle path we got to be on the middle path which is the straightest road on the ladder to god the straightest road to higher consciousness and that's being a realist it's not looking at things from too much of a bleak perspective and not looking at things as we got this solved in the next 30 seconds perspective neither one of those are true we gotta accurately assess that's why actuarial studies comes in into play so so importantly be your b we have to form like an actuarial understanding of what's really going on this this eliminates belief it takes belief out of the equation then you could be a realist about where the dynamic is they don't have everything totally locked up if they had everything totally locked up and there was absolutely no way to fight them do you think i'd be on the [ __ ] air do you think i'd be sitting and wasting my [ __ ] time talking into a [ __ ] headset into a [ __ ] microphone i would be planning the contingency of how i might survive whatever's coming if it's possible to survive it at all but i certainly wouldn't still be trying to morally educate human beings if i thought the the whole thing was totally hopeless and sometimes i feel that way but i know that it isn't i would not be still trying moral education i would be fully putting all my eggs in the basket of warfare combat and survival and i've just told people i don't think that that's the right answer the right answer is most of your eggs in the basket of moral education some of your eggs in the basket of combat and survival bill your take on that uh geez i'm kind of disseminated at all but you're absolutely right and not only that but just knowing that that we can i truly think we can figure this out man i think of course the problems of man are created by man and so they're therefore they can be solved by their do you ever i call that the good news the good news is we've done this to ourself we can undo it it's a matter of will that's it and people can develop the will if we influence them yes go ahead that's right we need to have an optimistic mindset we have to know that we can do this and we have to always strive forward towards that end goal and even if if my earthly body doesn't last till till we reach that goal um i'm working towards it and you know imagine if if you had some of these actuary computers or whatever and actually this just happened with the covet data the actuaries came out with like 24 discrepancy with deaths with people that are 18 to 25 and it's usually like a 10 to or excuse me two or three percent discrepancy and they're looking at a 24 discrepancy yep and these actuary guys are like they know they're they know but but they don't it's not like oh i don't believe this right you know what i'm saying because they have the data they have the true data right exactly dude and it's not it doesn't your belief this doesn't require your belief and that's that's the the truth does not require your belief in fact your belief system is is going to make it much more worse man it's gonna color everything that comes after that because as the old saying goes whether you believe you can or whether you believe you can't either way you're right you are correct and you know what man do you know what i say to people the best substitute for knowledge is silence yep and learn yep don't don't talk about that true present moment awareness quieting the mind so that it can be filled as a vessel without a doubt and know that sometimes we have a reticular activator we have a psycho-cybernetic mechanism in our brain and our brain's purpose is to keep our body in homeostasis but it's also our behavior it influences our behavior based on our neural network and our experiences that we have and to to know about that to know about the technical technological marvel that we all have which is this body and to know the functions of it and to know that even though i'm being filled with doubts fear's anxieties that it might not be real and that i might be stepping out of my comfort zone and learning new things and building a new neural network and the byproduct of that is a month of discomfort because you're changing that belief system the polypeptides are flooding your body being like i don't know man doubts fears anxieties doubts fears anxieties doubts fears anxieties until we really really get a firm understanding about that which is and how to deal with that problem and then that creates new pathways and often they're more powerful than the old right remember that we're filling in the gap here man we're here we need to be here how do we fill this in and this is how we do it is um you know just realizing how the brain works the comfort zone how that's established how to break out that comfort zone what you're going to experience and using mindful awareness to become higher consciousness you're going to feel uncomfortable sometimes doing this work and that's why we need community that's why we need people that we can rely on to be vulnerable with and and we need to build up a strong broad knowledge base within the community that we're working in you know with neither a woo or doom mentality either one of those is is going off into uh la la land as far as i'm concerned you know and i know people accuse me of being uh more doom-oriented sometimes but it's not the world is just in that dark aspect and i'm trying to accurately explain to people just how dark it is sometimes i don't even think i go far enough in explaining that but um you know it's definitely not a doom perspective otherwise i wouldn't be on the air trying to change it let's hear from patrick patrick you're live on what on earth is happening with my special guest bill church of the one great work network welcome hello can you hear me yes we can loud and clear oh great uh i just wanted to get two points across uh in the beginning you uh told about the uh ceo of pfizer that he was saying that he want to half the populations that video unfortunately was edited he didn't really say that he said he wanted to have the people that um can't afford the medicine so uh so that you're saying that that was a product of video editing yeah unfortunately yeah okay i haven't i haven't heard that i'll look into that and see if that is the case hey you can you can find the whole uh interview um quite easily okay yeah well that's how that's how we set each other straight too man and just be like yeah okay we'll check it out we'll we'll flush this more thoroughly thank you patrick and the other thing i wanted to point out is um i heard you often talk about the immune system which is kind of like a term um from the i'm kind of nervous being on the show right now um is the term uh out of the germ theory which is uh fourth and um i kinda wanted to recommend the documentary series uh the viral delusion i'm from i'm familiar with it i mean i i think that that doesn't mean that we have ways of fighting off uh agents that come into our body that is a natural process whether you believe in the uh germ theory of disease or not um you know if i i'm referring to quote immune system that doesn't necessarily mean that i subscribe to that theory it simply means that there are mechanisms in the body that can heal and cleanse the body when it comes into contact with with agencies that uh make it perform a way that it shouldn't be performing so i don't think that you know we need to take it at that uh you know literal of a belief in you know germ theory of disease etc um so just want to say that but i understand what you're saying and i am familiar with that documentary it's a good one violet like like like the color or the plant the vibe viral viral viral okay i've misheard you there but i haven't seen it so i i will definitely check it out a viral delusion cool and uh maybe some book recommendations were like virus mania and what really makes you ill yeah i i know the book what really makes you ill that's a good one too um there's another one that talks about how uh infectious diseases were given to people and they couldn't transmit the disease um that was uh the invisible rainbow which is another good um resource uh and you know there's a lot we still don't know about how functions like that work but what i do know is that if you uh put proper nutrition in a high nutrient density and you eliminate toxicity uh your body's gonna perform optimally it's very simple truths that we have to go with uh regarding how things like that worked work um you know instead of getting uh caught up in a lot of uh complexity when it comes to that which is i've tried to uh clear that up with people many many times unfortunately that's all the time we have for this edition of what on earth is happening ladies and gentlemen thank you to my special guest bill church check them out on the 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